Re: [trinity-devel] TDE new logo proposal??

On Thursday 03 March 2016, 12:30 wrote Felix Miata: Agreed. But what -- positively -- is TDE about? I would venture, it is about * ergonomics (usability) * stability * functionality (TDE's trinity -- I can't resist to say ;-) IMHO, that is the edge of TDE even today (and I just did the Grand Tour through all major linux desktops ...) I agree, necessity should drive this discussion. And I hold, the gear is broken and doing damage to TDE: KDE3.5.10+ was widely perceived as a pinnacle of * ergonomics (in terms of user-configurable usability, i.e. the desktop adapting to the needs of the user, not vice versa) * stability and robustness * provided richness and tight integration of functionality between various applications To indicate the continuation of this valuable tradition, the "gear" was a natural and probably even wise choice. With KDE repeating the catastrophic transition and fracas (3->4) once again with 4->5 (and in 30+ years of X11 experience I have rarely used something less stable and ergonomic than Plasma5!) the luster of the gear is massively fading. Do we really want to be associated with KDE's recent and future plunders in the areas of ergonomics, stability and functionality, when the mission of this project is to keep and improve what was achieve and then discarded by KDE? If you take a look around, e.g. in Wikipedia and some linux forums, you'll find, that TDE is mostly perceived as a stale branch, an appendix of KDE. IMHO, the "gear" obstructs the view to the real and imperishable values of TDE, the trinity mentioned above. It prevents new (young) people from trying TDE, because -- why should they try an "old KDE" if the red-hot KDE sucks? To let TDE's values shine, and to attract a wider user base, user support and eventually more distro support (which in turn widens the user base) we need some change in terms of icon, wording, promoting the values and edge of TDE. My 2¢ ... ciao, ThoMaus