On Monday 19 December 2011 21:10:09 Darrell Anderson wrote: correct. as long as there is no trinity specific feed source, i would recommend planetkde.org feed anyways. at least there are some trinity entries from time to time :) werner

Thanks for the suggestions. But I do need an approved list. This is a group decision and not something I can presume on my own. :) We need to put any proposed list to a simple vote. Even with my nominal C++ skills, the code snippets are straightforward enough that I should be able to provide a patch. Just copy and past URLs. :) We should keep the default list limited to three feeds. We are providing a simple functional test with the default feeds and not a marketing or proselytizing campaign. Second, we need to limit the very first fetch. New users do not need or want a few hundred news items. :) They only need to see that Akregator is functioning. We should choose feeds that do not accumulate a dozen articles every day. If Trinity does not offer an RSS feed, then we should select sites that are free/libre software and generic about desktops. BTW, Trinity should offer an RSS feed. :) A news item once a month is sufficient for our team size. Darrell

On Monday 19 December 2011 21:51:12 L0ner sh4dou wrote: that would be nice, yes :) however, depends on: - are there some people in the trinity community who run an rss-enabled blog for pickup by a 'planet-like' feed aggregator (e.g. http://offog.org/code/rawdog.html) ? - if so, who could implement this on trinity web site ? (Calvin ?) werner

I don't know the technical requirements for offering an RSS feed. As a user, I can offer that the lack of news from Trinity is unsettling. :( We have a News section on the web site and eventually we should use that same text for an RSS feed. Even if the news is not yet available through RSS, outsiders should see some sort of life at the News section of the web site. A two sentence announcement is sufficient to show movement. We should release SOMETHING no less than a monthly basis. Users should know we are doing something other than cleaning the lint from our belly buttons. :) Yes, the big moment now is everybody waiting for GIT to become publicly available and the completion of the renaming project. Thereafter a weekly news bite announcement or two through RSS that particular noticeable bugs have been resolved is a great way to show progress and movement. Darrell

Try looking at http://www.cotonti.com/ I'm trying it at my localhost and it looks nice.

On 19 December 2011 17:53, Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels(a)gmail.com> wrote: Drupal is a bit bloat from what i've heard. What about Wordpress? seems bloaty too. My favorite of course is werc :-) I think something minimal, extensible, elegant would be good. Of course it is hard to fill all worlds happily :P Calvin Morrison

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:30:51 -0800 (PST) Darrell Anderson <humanreadable(a)yahoo.com> wrote: An RSS feed is just an XML document with a fixed location on the Web. Hand-editing something once a month would be far from impossible, if we don't have time for anything better. The question then becomes *what* to release--maybe condense a line or two out of each monthly meeting?

+1! Darrell

For QA and public image purposes, should we have one additional "PR person" approve of any new News items that are posted to the web site and RSS feeds? That is, two people from the PR team are required to "sign off" new posts? The News/RSS announcements reflect an image. My thinking is to prevent any one person running amok for whatever reason, even good intentioned reasons. :) Certainly we need nominal editorial reviews --- bad grammar and spelling do not invoke feelings of confidence and intelligence. :) I think I'm the instigator of that idea. :) I don't want the process to become burdensome. I realize people need to review anonymous postings, possibly several times a day. Several people need to be on the team to share the load and I don't know that we have that capacity. I still like the idea but I vote to delay the idea until after R14 and then reopen for discussion. I presume TDE still supports crash reports? What was that called --- Dr. Konki (Dr. Trinity :) )? To where do those reports get forwarded? Is a login account required to submit those crash reports? Currently the option in the Help menus to create a bug report connects to the bugzilla, but users are required to create an account. Which raises the original point that prompted me to consider anonymous reports: many people won't join a bugzilla. That's just human nature that most people won't get involved. :( Perhaps the easy answer is if people won't join (the bugzilla or the lists) then they get no support. :) Sounds crass in a small way, but we all have limits on our time and energy. Darrell

Sure, why not? With respect to Tim being the person to support the News or RSS feeds, I don't see why he should be the only person. News is news. Any of us can post something if we have posting permissions. I have a long background in technical writing and can edit and proofread submittals. Watching for significant bug reports is easy. If I was on the bugzilla "all" distribution list I would know of every patch that was submitted. (Is that something I can configure on my own or does Tim have to add me to that list?) Other than package building I would not be able to test every patch because like many users, I don't use all apps. Yet knowing of each submitted patch is easy enough to translate into an RSS and News update. I can select two or three patches or bug fixes that seem significant in some way. These updates then show project life and progress. A PlanetTDE is an interesting idea. We would have to be careful to disclaim and warn that opinions expressed are not always those of the entire team. :) Darrell

On Monday 19 December 2011 21:47:21 Darrell Anderson wrote: +1 werner

We have four nominees thus far: planetkde OSNews H-Online lwn.net I'll add two more nominees: LXer Linux News Tuxmachines I mentioned another that does not exist: Trinity. :) Darrell