De: Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz>
Asunto: Re: [trinity-devel] Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE
Fecha: jueves, 20 de septiembre, 2012 19:05
On Wednesday 19 of September 2012
19:35:30 Alexis PM wrote:
In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my
experiences with TDE
starting from a clean install of Debian Squeeze
(within X) from the
viewpoint of a Spanish desktop user. The
pitfalls or things I've
found are improving (I report all as bugs in the
tracker to be
1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several
much problem, I think there are collaborators
enough time and desire
to make it viable. A call to collaborators
mailing list to
create working groups could be. I offer to help
2. Debian installation intructions improvements:
* Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by
distros. If you're a newbie and follow to the
the instructions, the
lines with "sudo" not work
* Lack reference to the translation packages, example
translate, apt-get install
* For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it
shoul be indicate in the
intructions as "if you have a
laptop..." or similar.
* A graphical network manager as
network-manager-kde-trinity is very util,
it shoul be indicate in the intructions as
"if you want
to have a graphical
network manager and you are not using a other as
you..." or similar.
May notice about network-manager versions
3. Applications of interest:
* Kmix should be in the System Tray.
I don't report, I think is reported in
* IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the
installation, are useful for the general public.
* Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the
close/maximize /minimize buttons.
* Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having
chosen Spanish. I
can help with it.
* Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in
have to do KControl > Keyboard Layout >
keyboard layout & Show
indicator for single layout.
5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a
translations. For example, "Hibernate
"Suspend computer" in
the "End session" window.
I can help with it.
6. KDM problems:
* KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be
seen. I think I
solved it with KControl > System admin >
manager > Apparance >
Compositor: Trinity compositor. If choosing
Compositor solve the
problem, the package should be reconfigured to
it by default.
don't work, just a
black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing
& Ctrl-Alt-F6, the
KDM window is visible very briefly. I read
similar, related with
graphic card (this is a Nvidia, and use the
driver), I don't know.
Related: In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD
TDE as desktop
environment: * In a live session, if you choose
session" in the TDE
exit dialog, you find a KDM login window answer
about user name and
password - could be auto-restart
the TDE desktop
* In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window
work, the system stays in terminal login (you can
insert your user name and
password, and the
system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx"
did a review of the
problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences
by TDE project, as
sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE
original. A set of new
* Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser
Konsole: a Konsole window
appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a
system, therefore neither user password (user is
neither root password (demand sudo) work.
root in the "T >
System > SuperUser" dialog works well.
* In T > System, other applications as KPackage
open, but for a action ask
for "SUDO password", and again neither
neither root password
work. But KUser in T > System work well with
* I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System
don't work to enter the
root password. Synaptic via "Run
"KDEInit could not launch
'su-to-root': could not find
synaptic" works well.
8. I suggest the following changes in file associations
Preferences > Configure Konqueror)
* Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think
Kwrite is simpler
* Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files
Thank you for your detailed research. I believe that you
will find some of
these problems resolved in upcoming release 184.108.40.206. Issues
unresolved in 220.127.116.11, we leave to solution later - they
will not block
I am glad for your interest in translations to Spanish. Do
you think you
managed to get one more volunteer with whom you could revise
Thank you for your efforts, interest
and look forward to further cooperation.
Thank you very much for your words and interest for improvement the project. My only
intention with this constructive criticism to help improve TDE.
I upgrade TDE 3.5.3 to 18.104.22.168 (via repo: deb
main). Few bugs have been fixed (4a - Keramic theme), others unfortunately remain the same
(as all su/sudo bugs: Konsole as SuperUser, Kpackage, Synaptic), and others have appeared
(turn-off and restart
work with the repo is good, you just have to improve some aspects.
I want to help TDE, because I think KDE-3 was the best desktop of all. My contributions
are limited to bug-hunter and translator. I like to help with the translation into
Spanish... where to start?