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Re: [trinity-devel] R: [trinity-devel] TDE kftpgrabber and kasablanca FTP clients - connect, but no file list ever retrieved
by Darrell Anderson 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

>I understand your frustration Darrell, and no you are not being >mean. You are >apparently taking the information I am posting in a way other than >it is intended to be received. Yesterday I spent a couple of hours trying to resolve bug report 1842. The Help button code is in place but the button does not appear. Not to mention that the default size of the list box window clips half the text to be unreadable. After several attempts to patch with my awful C++ skills, I walked away in frustration. Then I asked myself: Does anybody use this low quality garbage? Who actually writes such crappy software? Is there a reason why such apps never were pulled into the main KDE trunk? Why are we supporting junk? Why do people use such software and then pretend the app is not half broken? This is what I mean by "chicken shit" bugs. These kinds of bugs never should exist in the first place. Today I asked myself, Why am I spending time on junk? Stop building the crappy stuff and the problem goes away. Nobody else seems to care that this grabage is broken, why should I? The real problem is my standards are too high. I need to learn to accept that three round wheels and one wheel shaped like an octagon is "good enough." Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] kmymoney FTBFS - fatal error: qsqldriverplugin.h: No such file
by Darrell Anderson 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

>What if you want an actual database backend for kmymoney? > >In kmymoney's case "works for me" is a qualified "works for me" at >best. The >documentation blows up the build as well unless you specifically >disable the pdf >documents or install a 3rd party perl package of html2ps: Does anybody actually use kmymoney? Somebody with knowledge who can attest whether these additional build options hamper or cripple usage? Is a database backend critical for usage or does the app use an alternate method for storing data? I have no idea because I don't use the app. Is the emperor wearing clothes? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] R: [trinity-devel] TDE kftpgrabber and kasablanca FTP clients - connect, but no file list ever retrieved
by Darrell Anderson 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

>I tried KFtpgrappeb on a debian mirror, but after establishing a >connection, it "stops" on the "fetching file lise". >There is definitely something wrong somewhere. I am going to be frank here and will sound harsh and mean. We are eager to add older kde3 apps to the repo but part of me thinks we do this with a bean-counter mindset --- to impress people how many apps we have. From my own usage and observation I find many of those older apps useless fluff. We spend zero time on quality control and testing. Browse the bug tracker --- filled with paper cut issues. Or, to be blunt, what I call "chicken shit" issues. The bug reports all just sit there with no attention. David, file Yet Another Bug Report. I don't know what else to do. Darrell

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Status of tde-construct? Anyone tried it?
by David C. Rankin 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

All, Picking through the remaining files to build, I ran across tde-construct that apparently is an autobuild meta-package for TDE that advertises the ability to automatically download the TDE sources and build TDE for you as easy as: "cd meta/kde;make install" By default "Konstruct" installs to ~/trinity.5.7/ which means you don't have to possess root privileges or risk to damage your system or affect another KDE. Man, if this thing works -- we've been doing it the hard-way all along ;-) But seriously, has anyone tested any of it? It seems to contain all of the base install and many of the applications. I suspect none of the links point to correct sources and it would take a bit of CPR to get something to actually build, but the idea is good. Anybody ever built/tested it? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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TDE kftpgrabber and kasablanca FTP clients - connect, but no file list ever retrieved
by David C. Rankin 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

All, I've testing both ftp clients in applications (kftpgrabber and kasablanca). Of the two, kasablanca will connect, but does not display any remote contents in the file areas. I can issue commands e.g. PASV, help, dir, and the log output shows the remote server sees the command and responds by changing directories remotely and issues the CWD response showing successful directory change, but no file listing is ever available. (tried both with/without [x] correct pasv) Here is the sample log window output: 220-Gesellschaft fuer wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Goettingen 220-==================================================================== 220-This is a Linux PC (Dell PE-2650, 2 CPUs P4/2800, 12 GB RAM) 220-running SuSE-Linux-8.2 with SuSE kernel 2.4.20-64GB-SMP. 220-/pub is ext3, a 2 TB Partition within a Transtec T6100F16R1 220-IDE/FC Raid array with 15+1 SATA disks Hitachi 240 GB Raid5 220- 220-For questions and other contacts to the ftp-admin, mailto:emoenke@gwdg.de 220-All transfers are logged. The local time is Tue Feb 18 08:25:44 2014. 220- 220-Limits: Domains gwdg.de, uni-goettingen.de, mpg.de: 200 sessions 220- Other domains: Mon - Fri 8:00 - 18:00: 1000 sessions 220- other times: 2000 sessions 220-Your domain limit: 1000 active sessions: 14 220- 220-Login as "ftp" or "anonymous" and use your email address as password. 220- 220 ftp.gwdg.de FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-18-em](1) Fri Apr 4 23:14:50 MEST 2003) ready. USER anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. PASS * 230-Hello User at mail.3111skyline.com, 230-we have 15 users (max 1000) logged in in your class at the moment. 230-Local time is: Tue Feb 18 08:25:44 2014 230-All transfers are logged. If you don't like this, disconnect now. 230- 230-tar-on-the-fly and gzip-on-the-fly are implemented; to get a whole 230-directory "foo", "get foo.tar" or "get foo.tar.gz" may be used. 230-Please use gzip-on-the-fly only if you need it; most files already 230-are compressed, and I will kill your processes if you waste my 230-ressources. 230- 230-The command "site exec locate pattern" will create a list of all 230-path names containing "pattern". 230- 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. CWD /pub 250-==================================================================== 250-Gesellschaft fuer wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Goettingen 250-==================================================================== 250-This is a Linux PC (Dell PE-2650, 2 CPUs P4/2800, 12 GB RAM) 250-running SuSE-Linux-8.2 with SuSE kernel 2.4.20-64GB-SMP. 250-/pub is ext3, a 2 TB Partition within a Transtec T6100F16R1 250-IDE/FC Raid array with 15+1 SATA disks Hitachi 240 GB Raid5 250- 250-For questions or contacts to the ftp-admin, mailto:emoenke at gwdg.de 250- 250 CWD command successful. PWD 257 "/pub" is current directory. TYPE A 200 Type set to A. PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (134,76,12,3,231,230) 500 '': command not understood. list 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. CWD /pub/opensuse 226 Transfer complete. PWD 250 CWD command successful. TYPE A 257 "/pub/opensuse" is current directory. PASV 200 Type set to A. list 227 Entering Passive Mode (134,76,12,3,232,67) I do not know where the list or transfer went, but it never made it into my window. I then tested with opensuse/kde3/kftpgrabber and I was able to connect and retrieve a directory listing and transfer files. The same with gftp, login to the same server and it works just fine. This looks like it may be a generic tde issue with ftp clients. This only effects applications/<ftp clients>. Konqueror ftp works fine in TDE. Type: ftp://david@server/home/david into the addressbar, the askpass dialog pops up and the connection and listing is perfect. So whatever kftpgrabber and kasablanca do differently is not working, but what konqueror does -- works! kftpgrabber likewise shows a connection with the remote server being made, but no file listing is ever displayed. The big issue with kftpgrabber is a race condition that occurs when the listing/handshake fails or when connection over ssh is attempted. It effectively locks the side of kftp the connection occurs on (left/right) and then pegs the CPU at 40-50%. Quitting kills the hung connection. A sample of the kftpgrabber connection log is: [01:53:37] KFTPGrabber logger initialized. [01:55:41] *** Connecting to nirvana:21... [01:55:41] *** Connected with server, waiting for welcome message... [01:55:41] 220 Welcome message [01:55:41] USER david [01:55:41] 331 Please specify the password. [01:55:41] PASS (hidden) [01:55:42] 230 Login successful. [01:55:42] SYST [01:55:42] 215 UNIX Type: L8 [01:55:42] FEAT [01:55:42] 211-Features: [01:55:42] EPRT [01:55:42] EPSV [01:55:42] MDTM [01:55:42] PASV [01:55:42] REST STREAM [01:55:42] SIZE [01:55:42] TVFS [01:55:42] UTF8 [01:55:42] 211 End [01:55:42] PWD [01:55:42] 257 "/home/david" [01:55:42] *** Connected. [01:55:42] *** Fetching directory listing... [01:55:42] TYPE A [01:55:42] 200 Switching to ASCII mode. [01:55:42] EPSV [01:55:42] 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||40351|) [01:55:42] *** Establishing data connection with 192.168.6.17:40351... Both clients show similar behavior - like some part of the ftp-ioslave isn't communicating correctly resulting in no listing. Can someone test and confirm this behavior. Thoughts? Suggestions? Small potatoes apps, but curious neither are not working. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] kmymoney FTBFS - fatal error: qsqldriverplugin.h: No such file
by Darrell Anderson 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

> The issue seems to be in this obscure sqlite source included in >kmymoney: > >23011-qt-sqlite3-0.2.tar.gz > >that explains why the files were missed in the q->tq renaming >scheme. That explains what? > I'll see >if I can come up with some sort of patch, but the git tree >including an external >.tar.gz source of sqlite3 seems like a really bad idea :) Yet this is working for everybody else? If kmymoney does not include an intrnal sqlite engine, like amarok, then kmymoney should be built against the external installed version. There probably is a configuration option to build with the external version or an option to not build with the internal version, which then reverts to the external version. Probably should first test that before ripping sources. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] kmymoney FTBFS - fatal error: qsqldriverplugin.h: No such file
by Darrell Anderson 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

>> The only header partially matching that description is: >> >> /opt/tqt3/include/ntqsqldriverplugin.h >> >> Is that the correct header? If so, what's the 'nt' for? >> > >I think it is supposed to be: > >/usr/include/tqt/tqsqldriverplugin.h > >looks like a q->tq naming issue.... When compiling tqt3 rather than qt3, the tqtinterface files have a 'n' prefix. Therefore ntqsqldriverplugin.h is the correct name. I have the same file on my systems. I performed a full rebuild last night and kmymoney built without error. Darrell

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kmymoney FTBFS - fatal error: qsqldriverplugin.h: No such file
by David C. Rankin 18 Feb '14

18 Feb '14

Darrell, All, kmymoney fails right off the bat during build with the following: ==> Building - tde-kmymoney... make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory '/build/tde-kmymoney/src/kmymoney' Making all in qt-sqlite3-0.2 make[2]: Entering directory '/build/tde-kmymoney/src/kmymoney/qt-sqlite3-0.2' cd sqlite3 && /opt/tqt3/bin/qmake sqlite3.pro "QMAKE=/opt/tqt3/bin/qmake" -o Makefile cd sqlite3 && make -f Makefile make[3]: Entering directory '/build/tde-kmymoney/src/kmymoney/qt-sqlite3-0.2/sqlite3' g++ -c -pipe -g -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -W -march=i686 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_PLUGIN -DQT_SHARED -I/opt/tqt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/opt/tqt3/include -o smain.o smain.cpp smain.cpp:37:30: fatal error: qsqldriverplugin.h: No such file or directory #include <qsqldriverplugin.h> ^ compilation terminated. The only header partially matching that description is: /opt/tqt3/include/ntqsqldriverplugin.h Is that the correct header? If so, what's the 'nt' for? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] common/admin - TQTDCOPIDLNG is not set
by Darrell Anderson 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

>Please, can you assess whether any of these unintended renaming >should be >added to the script convert_existing_qt3_app_to_tqt3? The script >is still >actively used for convert KDE3 applications to Trinity and for >preparing >updates for existing applications. I am not intimate with the conversion scripts. If I understand correctly the following additions will help. CAM_RETQ_/CAM_REQ_ CHARFRETQ_/CHARFREQ_ CHISTQ_DOF/CHISQ_DOF CPUFRETQ/CPUFREQ ETQBACK/EQBACK ETQ_CHANNELS/EQ_CHANNELS ETQ_MAX/EQ_MAX ETQ_NOT/EQ_NOT ETQ_SET/EQ_SET ETQVIEW/EQVIEW ETQUALIZER/EQUALIZER ETQGAINS/EQGAINS ETQDATA/EQDATA FRETQUENCY/FREQUENCY GETETQDATA/GETEQDATA HTQ_VIDEOCD/HQ_VIDEOCD INCRRTQ_WAIT/INCRRQ_WAIT IRTQ/IRQ IRTQ_/IRQ_ KONTQ/KONQ KONTQ_/KONQ_ KONTQSBC/KONQSBC KONTQFEED/KONQFEED KONTQFILE/KONQFILE KONTQSIDEBAR/KONQSIDEBAR KWTQ_/KWQ_ MPEG_SETQ/MPEG_SEQ PTQ_/PQ_ RETQSEN/REQSEN RETQBUF/REQBUF RETQ_/REQ_ RETQIMG/REQIMG RTQ_IFS/RQ_IFS RTQ_SIZE/RQ_SIZE SAMPLE_FRETQ_/SAMPLE_FREQ_ SETQNO/SEQNO SETQNO_/SEQNO_ SETQ_NO/SEQ_NO SETQ_MASK/SEQ_MASK SETQACCESSMGR/SEQACCESSMGR SETQLINEWIDGET/SETLINEWIDGET SETQMAN/SEQMAN SND_SETQ_EVENT/SND_SEQ_EVENT SUBTQ_/SUBQ_ KTQ_CLASSNAME/KQ_CLASSNAME TDETQ_CLASSNAME/TDEQ_CLASSNAME TQUIET/QUIET etqdialog/eqdialog Litquids/Liquids RetqCount/ReqCount retquis/requis (French) Retquisiti/Requisiti (Italian) setqCount/setCount "setq "/"set " stquid/squid Stquiggle/Squiggle stquiggle/squiggle stquiggly/squiggly tquerytable/querytable Kontqui/Konqui kontqui/konqui Of course, none of these unintended renames affected compiling because the compiler does not "read" variable names the same way as humans. to compilers, variables are only "tokens." As long as the unintended renames are 100% consistent the program compiles just fine. Fixing the unintended renames is important to us humans only, to improve readability and establish a degree of professionalism. Darrell

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list of packages supporting --enable-final, is the option worth it?
by David C. Rankin 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Darrell, Slavek, Michele, Fancios, All, Does anybody have a list of automake packages that build/support --enable-final configure option. I haven't saved all configure file options -- yet, but before I start I thought I would check and see if anyone had a list? Apparently there are optimization opportunities provided when --enable-final is used, but there is a downside to using it if you are building on a build-farm. I would like to experiment with it, but before undertaking the effort, I thought I would ask if anyone has already done something like this? There are only scattered references to this configure option, but I was able to find a KDE related explanation: --enable-final makes the build system concatenate all sourcefiles in a directory (say, Konqueror's sourcefiles) into one big file. Technically, this is achieved by creating a dummy file which simply includes every C++ sourcefile. The advantage of this is that the compile a- takes less time since there is only little scattered file opening involved and b- produces usually more optimized code, since the compiler can see more code at once and thus there are more chances to optimize. Of course this eats a lot more memory, but that is not an issue nowadays. Now, it's clear why this makes distcc useless: there is just one huge file per project, and outsourcing that file via distcc to other nodes will just delay the build since the sourcecode (and it's a lot) has to be transferred over the network, and there is no way to pararellize this. see: https://distcc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/web/faq.html -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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