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Re: [trinity-devel] Commit c926c513 (amarok) caused a conflict between packages
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>> Using your way (always good to learn something new :) ) I get >the following list: >> >> ------------------------------- >> opt/trinity/bin/tdesu >> opt/trinity/lib/libksvnwidgets.so >> opt/trinity/lib/libsvnfrontend.so >> opt/trinity/lib/libsvnqt.so >> opt/trinity/lib/libsvnqt.so.4 >> opt/trinity/lib/libsvnqt.so.4.2.2 >> opt/trinity/lib/libtdesvncfgreader.so >> opt/trinity/lib/libtdesvnevents.so >> opt/trinity/lib/libtdesvnhelpers.so >> >opt/trinity/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desk >top >> >opt/trinity/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.de >sktop >> opt/trinity/share/apps/tork/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/tork.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/da/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/da/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/da/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/config_appear.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/config_scan.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/filemap.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/en/filelight/main.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/config_appear.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/config_scan.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/filemap.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/es/filelight/main.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/et/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/et/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/et/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/config_appear.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/config_scan.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/it/filelight/main.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/pt/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/pt/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/pt/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/ru/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/ru/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/ru/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/common >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/config_appear.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/config_scan.png >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/index.cache.bz2 >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/index.docbook >> opt/trinity/share/doc/tde/HTML/sv/filelight/main.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/actions/babelfish.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdict.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kcmsambaconf.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdict.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/knewsticker.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/ksirc.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/ksirc.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kdict.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/knewsticker.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/ksirc.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdict.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/knewsticker.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ksirc.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kdict.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kppp.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/ksirc.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kwifimanager.png >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/kdict.svgz >> opt/trinity/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/kwifimanager.svgz >> opt/trinity/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/bg/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/br/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/cy/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ga/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/is/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ka/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/lt/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/rw/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/sr(a)Latn/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/ta/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/filelight.mo >> opt/trinity/share/services/svn+file.protocol >> opt/trinity/share/services/svn+http.protocol >> opt/trinity/share/services/svn+https.protocol >> opt/trinity/share/services/svn.protocol >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> Using a full install (except a few packages that didn't install >due to other missing dependencies), I also found: >> 1) filelight and filelight-l10n conflicts >> 2) libsvnqt-trinity has wrong dependency on libqt3-mt-dev when >instead should be libtqt3-mt-dev (tqt3 not qt3) >> > > Here is the list of duplicates I am currently handling in >packaging. I think >it corresponds well to your list: > >kaffeine:94: rm ${pkgdir}${TDEDIR}/share/mimelnk/application/x- >mplayer2.desktop >kmplayer:72: rm ${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/mimelnk/application/x- >mplayer2.desktop >tdeaccessibility:97: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/kttsd.png >tdeaccessibility:98: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/apps/kttsd.png >tdeaccessibility:99: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kttsd.png >tdeaccessibility:100: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/apps/kttsd.png >tdeaccessibility:101: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/64x64/apps/kttsd.png >tdeaccessibility:102: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kttsd.png > >tdeaccessibility:103: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/crystalsvg/scalable/apps/kttsd.sv >gz >tdeaddons:68: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/ktimemon.png >tdeaddons:69: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/ktimemon.png >tdesdk:66: rm ${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/services/*.protocol >tdesdk:69: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/kbabel.png >tdesdk:70: rm >${pkgdir}/opt/trinity/share/icons/locolor/16x16/apps/kbabel.png I moved the icons in question because there were no icons populating the former kcontrol protocols module and the help handbook table of contents. We have discussed this issue before. The agreed preferred solution is remove the duplicate icons from the sources. Fiddling around in the build scripts is always a jerk-round solution. For example, the amarok sources is the correct location for amarok icons, not tdelibs, tdebase, tdeaddons, or where ever. The icons should not be deleted blindly. In a previous discussion I mentioned the tdeaddon icons for kbabel were better because they are more global in appearance while the icons in tdesdk are U.S.- centric. In that case, move the tdeaddon kbabel icons and overwrite the tdesdk kbabel icons. Darrell

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TDE review
by Michele Calgaro 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

A little outdated, but at least a good review about TDE. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/best-alternative-l… Let's keep up the good feeling with R14 :) Cheers Michele

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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Then something must have changed with your tqtinterface install, >because I have always handled it manually there: > > # Create and install ld.so.conf.d file > install -d -m755 $pkgdir/etc/ld.so.conf.d/ > echo ${_tdedir}/lib > $pkgdir/etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinity.conf > echo ${_tdedir}/lib/trinity >> >$pkgdir/etc/ld.so.conf.d/trinity.conf > >ldconfig is then called by the post-install script. No, I just never got the memo. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Hah! It was something simple - glad you solve the issue. No, not simple. I'd like to know what changed and when that started that requirement. I never needed that additional location before. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>> I notice in your screen grab you do not have a button for Novell > >> Groupwise. 3.5.10 has that button: >> >> http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/misc/groupwise-3.5.10.png >> > >What got deleted? I haven't seen that in any of my new builds??? I traced the disappearance to commit cc29364f, 2010-09-01. Probably made sense some time ago when Novell owned Suse and Novell Groupware and SLOX were much one and the same. I don't know whether Novell Groupwise is valid anymore or whether that option should be restored. There also is code for Microsoft Exchange but the button is deliberately hidden. I filed an enhancement request. I don't use the app. I was just testing. >Are you sure you don't have some global patch that is getting >applied somewhere >in the bowels of you build scripts? Even then, I can't see how >that would cause >the linking to fail without it blowing up your build. That is the >strange part. The solution turned out to be adding /opt/trinity/lib/trinity to /etc/ld.so.conf. I always have had /opt/trinity/lib, but never /opt/trinity/lib/trinity and never needed that either. I don't know what changed the past weeks or months that requires that now. Darrell

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Pure systemd User Session Tracking - Any Thoughts?
by David C. Rankin 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

Slavek, I doubt you have had time to work on user session tracking in the pure systemd case. However, this is an issue I must get fixed or TDE is unusable on Arch (unless we ask users to manually kill all process that don't close) Is there anything I can do to help? We have the kdebase-workspace patch from 4.11, have you made an attempt to apply it? If not, I suppose I could hand-edit/apply as much as I can, and then provide you with that if you think it will help. Let me know if that would help or if there is something else I can do to help move this along. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] Is anybody able to start the groupwise wizard in R14?
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>> I cannot and I found the following reasons: >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwarewizard >> libegroupwarewizard.so => not found >> libsloxwizard.so => not found >> libkolabwizard.so => not found >> libexchangewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/egroupwarewizard >> libegroupwarewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/exchangewizard >> libexchangewizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/kolabwizard >> libkolabwizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/scalixwizard >> libscalixwizard.so => not found >> >> ldd /opt/trinity/bin/groupwisewizard >> libgroupwisewizard.so => not found >> >> My build script includes: >> >> -DWITH_ALL_OPTIONS=ON >> -DBUILD_ALL=ON >> >> The *.so files exist, but none of the binaries are linked >correctly. >> >> Darrell >> > >Starts fine: > > http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tde-groupware- >wizard.jpg Notice anything unusual about the screen grab? The title bar? I'll fix the branding when I push the changes for the menu. I notice in your screen grab you do not have a button for Novell Groupwise. 3.5.10 has that button: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/misc/groupwise-3.5.10.png Does the groupware software have any other Trinity dependencies? I get the same results with 3.5.13 and 3.5.12. Won't start and didn't link correctly. Starts fine on 3.5.10. I am missing something obvious that all of those package sets have the same problem? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Added as: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1932 Now beg Francois and Slavek to help. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by Darrell Anderson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

>Got a response from the Author: > >1.3.6 was the last version for KDE3. You can grab the tarball >here: >http://tellico-project.org/download > >It's tagged in the git repo as v1.3.6, which is probably an upload >of the tarball. > >We should consider updating the TDE code to 1.3.6. File an enhancement request. Francois and Slavek have gotten good at pulling in KDE3 apps into Trinity. Darrell

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Tellico source old - new source requires kde4/qt4 - author contacted
by David C. Rankin 13 Feb '14

13 Feb '14

All, I have built tellico for the first time and it looks like a good collection manager (any collection, music, wine, whatever..) that we will want to keep. The problem is the source is quite old (1.3.2.1 - 2008). Tellico continues as an active ongoing project led by Robby Stephenson. http://tellico-project.org/ I've contacted him to determine what the latest version is that will build on kde3/qt3. Many new features have been added to tellico and I would like to see TDE take advantage of the updates. The current tellico code is hosted in a git repository: git clone git://anongit.kde.org/tellico I'll report back with the response. If we have the latest, then it may be worth while to take a look at what it would take to patch/port the current code to again build on TDE and perhaps create a new branch on the project git repo. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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