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[trinity-devel] Mageia 6
by Felix Miata 20 Jun '17

20 Jun '17

I stripped KDE from a 32-bit mga5.1 installation, then installed trinity-tdebase and trinity-tdm to replace. Then I cloned it and used the clone to upgrade to mga6 while keeping the mga5 version of the TDE repos. All worked nicely until I accepted the suggestion to urpme --auto-orphans. Now attempting startx eats a bunch of cpu cycles, then exists with message line1: TDE: command not foundxinit: connection to X server lost. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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TDE on Devuan
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 18 Jun '17

18 Jun '17

Hi All! golinux asked me to forward this message to the TDE mailing list :-) Nik To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: TDE on Devuan Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 13:37:29 -0500 From: golinux(a)dyne.org Greetings from the Devuan project! Several Devuan users have chosen TDE as their DE. Dr. Nikolaus Klepp has even customized the 'Plastic' theme to match the default Devuan desktop! Devuan Stable will be released soon and then we will turn our attention to Ascii (Stretch). If TDE is compatible with Ascii (not entangled with systemd) we are hoping to get it packaged so users will be able to install TDE directly from our repos. Thanks for providing a viable alternative! Cheers! golinux -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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building package tdepim
by deloptes 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

Hi all, Slavek, I did upgrade on the stretch test bed and as I reported already earlier I can not build tdepim anymore. As Slavek mentioned "it builds" in stretch without issues, so now I am asking to help me understand where the problem might be comming from. It builds fine, but it can not build the package because instead of looking into kontact-trinity it looks into kontact Thanks in advance TDE/tdepim/debian$ git pull Already up-to-date. TDE/tdepim$ debuild -uc -us -b -j4 ... ... dh_installdeb -pkontact-trinity dh_installdeb: Compatibility levels before 9 are deprecated (level 5 in use) dh_perl -pkontact-trinity dh_shlibdeps -pkontact-trinity -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_specialdatesplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kpilot-trinityplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_todoplugin.so -- -dRecommends debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_specialdatesplugin.so -dSuggests debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kpilot-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_todoplugin.so -dDepends dpkg-shlibdeps: error: cannot read debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so: No such file or directory dh_shlibdeps: dpkg-shlibdeps -Tdebian/kontact-trinity.substvars -dRecommends debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so

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[trinity-devel] Stretch/14.0.4: no notification on USB media insertion
by Felix Miata 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

Why not? What's supposed to control whether any notification occurs that a USB stick or HD has been inserted? Are udisks and udisks2 incompatible with each other? Purging udisks didn't help. Fdisk finds them. Blkid finds too. I asked about this in February, but got no resolution. :-( http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::15361 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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TDE Fundraiser
by Timothy Pearson 17 Jun '17

17 Jun '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 All, It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online. This year I'm going to try something new. If you donate $40 to TDE [1], I will allow 2 months access to the nightly build repositories that now include Debian Stretch and Raspbian Jessie. Additionally, I'd like those who donate at this level to nominate two bugs that I will personally look into (excepting those relating to support for Wayland, Qt4/Qt5, or Webkit). This way your donations have a direct and positive effect on TDE itself, and TDE can continue to exist in its current form. Personally I would suggest the LibreOffice integration bug or possibly an update of the GTK3 theme engine to fix the rendering bugs as potential candidates, but in the end it's up to you! A full listing of open bugs is available here: http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=&no_… As always, thank you for your support and continued feedback -- we couldn't develop TDE without it! Tim [1] https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAlj3qjAACgkQLaxZSoRZrGEhXwDcDpHwUy8Z77OEEKHrdVMSqlcW 6uT+v3pMwqNAXQDeM9WnwPpziYGFQIsfb5I6DiVBLNsZaBL2tab+yw== =FFOS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice integration permanently lost
by Timothy Pearson 16 Jun '17

16 Jun '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 > On 2017/06/16 03:42 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote: >>> On 2017/06/15 02:59 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday 14 of June 2017 19:34:57 Timothy Pearson wrote: >>>>>> Just as a heads up, TDE has permanently lost LibreOffice integration >>>>>> due to the decisions of the upstream LibreOffice devs: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://anzwix.com/a/LibreOffice/Remove%20TDE%20Integration%20(vclplug,% >>>>>> 20Address%20Book,%20C >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to plan out a roadmap to determine whether or not we should >>>>>> be >>>>>> trying to get e.g. GTK3 into a form we can use as the backend and >>>>>> common interface to third party programs like LibreOffice. I'd like >>>>>> to >>>>>> schedule a community meeting on #trinity-desktop for this weekend, >>>>>> Saturday, at 2:00PM CST to discuss further. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm afraid the proposed time can not be successful: >>>> >>>>> Tim GMT-0500 >>>>> Slávek GMT+0200 >>>>> Michele GMT+1000 >>>> >>>>> I'll have an evening and I will not be at the computer at the time. >>>>> Michele will have a night. We need either an earlier hour == for me >>>>> afternoon, for Michele evening, or a later hour == for me late >>>>> evening, >>>>> for Michele morning. >>>> >>>> Would 4:00PM CST be better? Either that or I could do 7:00PM CST. >>>> >> >>> Hi Tim, Slavek, >>> Saturday I will be on a plane most of the day, but given that I am far >>> ahead in timezone I should reach my destination >>> well before that. >> >>> 4:00 pm CST would be 6:00 am for me and midnight for Slavek. >>> 7:00 pm CST would be 9:00 am for me and 3am for Slavek. >>> Those could be though, especially for Slavek. >>> How about Sunday morning 8:00 am CST? That would be 10:00 pm for me and >>> 4pm for Slavek, so somehow in the middle. 9:00 >>> am CST is also possible if needed. >> >>> Cheers >>> Michele >> >> Sunday won't work for me, but we could move this over to next Saturday? >> > > We could, but as of now I am not sure I can't make it that day. > The other alternative is for you and Slavek to have a first community > meeting and discuss things, then I will read the > discussion on the public log and talk to Slavek when I have a chance. This > way it should be easier to accommodate a time > for all of us. And considering that I still won't be able to work on TDE > for at least a couple of months to come, it > seems reasonable that you and Slavek starts first. > Cheers > Michele > > Let's go ahead and move it to next Saturday 9:00 AM CST. It looks like I am also having scheduling issues this weekend. :-) Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAllEI/cACgkQLaxZSoRZrGGaVQDeIX3D62iOeCQazjkvw09/nJFG xQQi8ggAvauCxwDeKH0uZOlsoiKPmb1Iz24+bS6j9ykHFG1/P0wF3A== =6PuA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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LibreOffice integration permanently lost
by Timothy Pearson 15 Jun '17

15 Jun '17

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA224 Just as a heads up, TDE has permanently lost LibreOffice integration due to the decisions of the upstream LibreOffice devs: http://anzwix.com/a/LibreOffice/Remove%20TDE%20Integration%20(vclplug,%20Ad… We need to plan out a roadmap to determine whether or not we should be trying to get e.g. GTK3 into a form we can use as the backend and common interface to third party programs like LibreOffice. I'd like to schedule a community meeting on #trinity-desktop for this weekend, Saturday, at 2:00PM CST to discuss further. Thanks! Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iFYEARELAAYFAllBc8EACgkQLaxZSoRZrGHdpgDaAgr2cfH39cYzB5FNRiz5lbrI jP2R4To8FMqw8wDeLoQfGfFHklxQNWfNMlhEr1AAIuLpSQKAbpZLBA== =6Gdj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TDEPIM
by deloptes 17 May '17

17 May '17

Hi all I get following error when building tdepim on Stretch. Two months ago I was able to build it. Since then I updated Stretch. It is looking in the wrong directory. Do you know by chance What I can change to make it build? The files are in obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/kontact/plugins/korganizer/libkontact_journalplugin.so Also Slavek, Michele, can we clear the issue with the knotes revision/date tracking? Otherwise I can not pull the last from the repo thanks and regards dh_shlibdeps -pkontact-trinity -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_specialdatesplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kpilot-trinityplugin.so -Xopt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_todoplugin.so -- -dRecommends debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_specialdatesplugin.so -dSuggests debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kpilot-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_todoplugin.so -dDepends dpkg-shlibdeps: error: cannot read debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so: No such file or directory dh_shlibdeps: dpkg-shlibdeps -Tdebian/kontact-trinity.substvars -dRecommends debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizer-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_specialdatesplugin.so -dSuggests debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_journalplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kpilot-trinityplugin.so debian/kontact/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_todoplugin.so -dDepends debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/bin/kontact debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_newstickerplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_kontact.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_weatherplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_karm.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_korganizerplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_knodeplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_sdsummary.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_korgsummary.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_knotesplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_kmailsummary.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_summaryplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kaddressbookplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_kmailplugin.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_kontactknt.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkontact_akregator.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/trinity/kcm_kontactsummary.so debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/libkontact.so.1.0.0 debian/kontact-trinity/opt/trinity/lib/libkpinterfaces.so.1.0.0 returned exit code 2 /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk:333: recipe for target 'binary-predeb-IMPL/kontact-trinity' failed make: *** [binary-predeb-IMPL/kontact-trinity] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2

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Re: [trinity-devel] Re: Stretch: systemd default target multi-user is ignored
by zlists＠ns.sympatico.ca 15 May '17

15 May '17

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 21:23 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Keith Daniels wrote: >> My bias is anti systemd, just so you know.-- scant documentation >> and there has never been a security review of its package. > Meanwhile the situation has improved . There are many things > improved including documentation. What I can recommend is the > "systemd cheat sheet" which can be found in different flavors > around. > Just few examples. > https://wiki.debian.org/systemd/CheatSheet > https://gist.github.com/mbodo/8f87c96ce11e91f80fbf6175412a2206 > My personal experience is ... after looking into it I used systemd > free debian for some time until I was ready to move my system to > systemd. It took me few hours ... mainly fixing some custom > networking logic (scripts that would execute on certain conditions) > and migrating few scripts. > Since than I can not complain. I moved all systems from init to > systemd - no issue. > I can just conclude that the main problem is the unwillingness to > grow. I don't know whether that is merely a poorly-thought out idea or a deliberately abrasive obnoxious over-generalization. There is a lot of debate about the merits of systemd, and some people have come to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that they would prefer to not use it in their system. > Of course I can understand this - why fixing something again after > some 10-15y when it was working flawlessly ... Are you talking about ("somethign") SysV (or BSD) init scripts? 10-15 years? Perhaps more like 40 years. > but guys this is called evolution - for good or for bad. So if it is possibly bad, why would we want to evolve in that direction? I use Slackware, and the guy in charge has made the conscious decision to not use systemd, and it seems like he is unlikely to change that any time soon. There are currently other distros with similar strategies. Do people working on Trinity really want to alienate people who use systemd-free distros? That seems like a bad idea to me, but that is just my opinion. Jim

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[trinity-devel] Stretch: systemd default target multi-user is ignored
by Felix Miata 05 May '17

05 May '17

TDM according to ps -A is "running" when init completes even though multi-user is default target, and regardless whether 3 or 5 or neither is included on cmdline. Killall tdm then startx does produce a TDE session, but there's no .xsession-errors. There doesn't seem to be any kind of clues I can decipher in any logs: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/tdm.log-fi965-stretch http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.0.log-fi965-stretch ii tdm-trinity 4:14.0.5~pre14-0debian9.0.0+2~a amd64 # inxi -c0 -v1 System: Host: fi965 Kernel: 4.9.0-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 6700 (-MCP-) speed: 2668 MHz (max) Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) tty size: 111x36 Advanced Data: N/A for root # systemctl status tdm â tdm.service - Trinity Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/tdm.service; static; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:tdm-trinity(1) Is ignoring the default target normal or expected on Debian running systemd? Searching BZ for comment including systemd and target produced no hits except for an Ubuntu crasher. Is there some way to get TDM to not start automatically on Stretch boot? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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