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[Fwd: English spelling]
by Timothy Pearson 26 Mar '15

26 Mar '15

All, I received this message a couple days ago. Forwarding it to the list so that we don't lose track of it. Tim ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: English spelling From: Elan Ruusamäe <glen(a)pld-linux.org> Date: Sat, March 21, 2015 8:19 am To: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- hi i noticed several places of bad spelling, like "is" written as "are": http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdelibs/tree/CMakeLists.txt | tde_message_fatal( "ltdl.h are required, but not found on your system" ) | should be written as | tde_message_fatal( "ltdl.h is required, but not found on your system" ) | and so on for all items which are singular not plural... and "informations"! info is uncountable, therefore it's always "info" and "information" http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde-packaging "Branch Informations " should be written as "Branch Information" explanation: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=215770 -- glen

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Exmlm bug - March page not yet available
by Alexandre 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hi all, We're March 10 and the March page is not yet available on the trinity-devel mailing list web access. Is it a bug with ezmlm? Thanks! -Alexandre

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what replaced kcmshell applets when kinfocenter removed?
by Felix Miata 04 Mar '15

04 Mar '15

Lots of nothing Googling this. Could not find any discussion of kinfocenter removal other than mailing list and https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2135 mention that it happened. [openSUSE 13.1 host big41] # which kcmshell /opt/trinity/bin/kcmshell # file /opt/trinity/bin/kcmshell /opt/trinity/bin/kcmshell: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=2bb4f94287bb4cbe23e5491ca63bf2f4938fc5a5, stripped # rpm -qf /opt/trinity/bin/kcmshell trinity-tdelibs-3.5.13.2-3.oss131.opt.x86_64 # kcmshell fonts http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellK3-fonts-120.jpg (KDE3 or KDE4) http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE3513-fonts-132.jpg (TDE 3.5.13) # kcmshell xserver http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellK3-xserver-120.jpg (KDE3 or KDE4) http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/kcmshellTDE3513-xserver-132.jpg [openSUSE 13.2 host gx28c] # which kcmshell which: no kcmshell in (/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games) # rpm -qa | grep tdelibs trinity-tdelibs-14.0.0-1.oss132.opt.i586 # kcontrol xserver kcontrol: Unexpected argument 'xserver'. kcontrol: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. # kcontrol fonts kcontrol: Unexpected argument 'fonts'. kcontrol: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. kcontrol --help-all doesn't seem to have an answer. Where did the simple little applet window functionality go in R14? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Mainstream KDE is going to need systemd
by Alexandre 23 Feb '15

23 Feb '15

Hi, By reading PCLinuxOS texstar twitter feed, I learned that mainstream KDE is going to need systemd. Here you can read it: https://twitter.com/iluvpclinuxos And I found this article which explains why they want to do this: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/systemd-and-plasma I do not want or need to comment on this, since as an user, I don't care that much about init system, but I wanted to share this info here. Have a great day! -Alexandre

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Different System monitor comparison - New color theme proposed for KSysGuard
by Alexandre 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

Hi, I want to propose a new color theme and graph settings for KSysGuard, because the actual one are rather ugly and visually overloaded, to my opinion. I also wanted to post screenshot of different system monitors available on other OSes or on other desktop environment. Thank you! Tell me what you think! -Alexandre

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Linux desktop environment market share survey
by Alexandre 09 Feb '15

09 Feb '15

Hi all! I found a new survey about Linux desktop environment usage survey: http://www.itworld.com/article/2881172/survey-says-kde-plasma-is-the-most-p… It has KDE Plasma at first place, and surprisingly, XFCE at second place. Sorry, but TDE is almost the smallest one. These numbers says that classical desktop environment can still have a great part of ''market'', since XFCE is quite a classical desktop environment. One thing that I am very sorry, is how TDE got almost no media coverage at the R14.0.0 release, and almost none at all for the stable quality releases as 3.5.13.x series. What strikes me, is that some things need to be done to attract more attention, more users and more developers. Since classical DE as XFCE can have a large market share, I think that it is still possible to get more users, possibly by ditching away the perception that it is the outdated kde3. What do you think? Have a great day! -Alexandre

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r14 TDE apps not in Wheezy menus, probably Mint also
by Mike Bird 07 Feb '15

07 Feb '15

While looking into a problem on trinity-users I noticed that TDE apps are not present in my Wheezy menus. Judging by the original user report, this is probably the case also in Mint. I had not noticed this before because all the apps my users and I use regularly are either run from panel buttons or else are non-TDE apps such as LibreOffice which are present in menus. It is not immediately obvious to me where the problem lies. Does anyone have any information on this or should I start trying to figure it out? --Mike

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Kdesktop_lock left running
by russell＠lls.lls.com 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

Hello, We're seeing lots of kdesktop_lock processes left lying around after users have logged out. With the number of users (100+ on some of our systems) and uptimes in years, the process table is going to end up full of these :-( If one does an strace on the process it terminates but not until then. Here's a (partial) pstree of a user with a three hanging kdesktop_lock processes: >dbus-daemon(19522) >dbus-launch(19521) >dcopserver(19574) >kaccess(19656) >kded(19578) >kdeinit(19588)-+-kio_file(8614) > |-klauncher(19591) > |-konqueror(20688) > `-kwin(19633) >kdesktop(19637)---kdesktop_lock(29060) >kdesktop_lock(20636) >kdesktop_lock(22549) >kdesktop_lock(22120) >klipper(19671) >kmix(19674) >knotify(19667) >korgac(19676) >krandrtray(19661) >kicker(19643) >ksmserver(19626) >startkde(19416)-+-gpg-agent(19518) > |-kwrapper(19624) > `-ssh-agent(19517) The 'spurious' kdesktop_locks end up with init as the PPID: >F S UID PID PPID PGID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD >0 S 1051 22549 1 22482 0 80 0 - 7739 - ? 00:00:00 kdesktop_lock Process 22482 (the PGID) doesn't exist. When I do an strace on PID 20636 and I get: >Process 20636 attached - interrupt to quit >--- SIGHUP (Hangup) @ 0 (0) --- >--- SIGTERM (Terminated) @ 0 (0) --- >munmap(0xb5b70000, 172873) = 0 >gettimeofday({1423135382, 387694}, NULL) = 0 >gettimeofday({1423135382, 387815}, NULL) = 0 >exit_group(1) = ? and the kdesktop_lock process is gone. The version is: >Qt: 3.3.8d >KDE: 3.5.13.2 >KDesktop Locker: 2.1 all running on Debian Wheezy. Any suggestions as to how I stop this behaviour? TIA. -- Regards, Russell -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Russell Brown | MAIL: russell(a)lls.com PHONE: 01780 471800 | | Lady Lodge Systems | WWW Work: http://www.lls.com | | Peterborough, England | WWW Play: http://www.ruffle.me.uk | --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [trinity-devel] Kdesktop_lock left running
by Jim 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 15:13 (+0000), Russell Brown wrote: > Hello, > We're seeing lots of kdesktop_lock processes left lying around after > users have logged out. With the number of users (100+ on some of our > systems) and uptimes in years, the process table is going to end up full > of these :-( > If one does an strace on the process it terminates but not until then. > Here's a (partial) pstree of a user with a three hanging kdesktop_lock > processes: >>F S UID PID PPID PGID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD >>0 S 1051 22549 1 22482 0 80 0 - 7739 - ? 00:00:00 kdesktop_lock > Process 22482 (the PGID) doesn't exist. That is partially because PGID is not a process id, it is a process group ID. Cheers. Jim

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trinity-dev mailing list web access is frozen (it's winter...)
by Alexandre 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

Hi Tim, We're on Feb 5 and there is still now February page on the trinity-dev mailing list web access page. Thank you! -Alexandre

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