Registered desktop categories for Trinity Please note there is a tar.bz2 file attatched.
Attached is the working (for me) mock of a focused kmenu. It still needs polishing. I'm sure it still missing things or can be focused further. I would really like input on how to improve the structure as well as any errors I may have made.
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I'll make the mock up (just a directory with .desktop etc) in a day or two.
Hope truly hope it helps. I would be nice to see years of work put to good use. Its based on my observations of people menu search behavior. What they intuitively look for.
24 to 48 hrs...
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Sure, I'd be interested!
Tim
I've been working on a kmenu setup designed to focus the menu sets so they don't take over the screen when you open it, also to make it easier to track down the item you want. Is anyone interested in seeing it? If so I can create a simple mock up.
Kate
On 1/9/11, Ilya Chernykh neptunia@mail.ru wrote:
Hi! It is not a secret that all major desktop environments have their registered desktop categories for .desktop files. Since the KDE category has been hijacked by KDE4, don't you plan to submit request for registration of a Trinity category?
Hi Kate,
Thanks for the file. Is there a README file that goes along with it? I am not sure what I am supposed to do with its contents to view your menu idea.
Thnaks!
Tim
Attached is the working (for me) mock of a focused kmenu. It still needs polishing. I'm sure it still missing things or can be focused further. I would really like input on how to improve the structure as well as any errors I may have made.
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I'll make the mock up (just a directory with .desktop etc) in a day or two.
Hope truly hope it helps. I would be nice to see years of work put to good use. Its based on my observations of people menu search behavior. What they intuitively look for.
24 to 48 hrs...
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Sure, I'd be interested!
Tim
I've been working on a kmenu setup designed to focus the menu sets so they don't take over the screen when you open it, also to make it easier to track down the item you want. Is anyone interested in seeing it? If so I can create a simple mock up.
Kate
On 1/9/11, Ilya Chernykh neptunia@mail.ru wrote:
Hi! It is not a secret that all major desktop environments have their registered desktop categories for .desktop files. Since the KDE category has been hijacked by KDE4, don't you plan to submit request for registration of a Trinity category?
Tim, Those should be dropped into the directory where Trinity keeps it's Kmenu config files for the logged in user, preferably backing up and removing the original menu *.desktop files beforehand to keep from a conflict.
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:36, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
Tim, Those should be dropped into the directory where Trinity keeps it's Kmenu config files for the logged in user, preferably backing up and removing the original menu *.desktop files beforehand to keep from a conflict.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:36, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
Tim, Those should be dropped into the directory where Trinity keeps it's Kmenu config files for the logged in user, preferably backing up and removing the original menu *.desktop files beforehand to keep from a conflict.
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Hi Kate,
Thanks for the file. Is there a README file that goes along with it? I am not sure what I am supposed to do with its contents to view your menu idea.
Thnaks!
Tim
Attached is the working (for me) mock of a focused kmenu. It still needs polishing. I'm sure it still missing things or can be focused further. I would really like input on how to improve the structure as well as any errors I may have made.
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Katheryne Draven < borgqueen4@gmail.com
borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok I'll make the mock up (just a directory with .desktop etc) in a day or two.
Hope truly hope it helps. I would be nice to see years of work put to good use. Its based on my observations of people menu search behavior. What they intuitively look for.
24 to 48 hrs...
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Timothy Pearson < kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net
kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Sure, I'd be interested!
Tim
I've been working on a kmenu setup designed to focus the menu sets so they don't take over the screen when you open it, also to make it easier to track down the item you want. Is anyone interested in
seeing
it? If so I can create a simple mock up.
Kate
On 1/9/11, Ilya Chernykh < neptunia@mail.runeptunia@mail.ru>
wrote:
> Hi! It is not a secret that all major desktop environments have
their
> registered desktop categories for .desktop files. Since the KDE > category > has > been hijacked by KDE4, don't you plan to submit request for > registration > of > a > Trinity category? >
Top posting! grrr... Kate, these were made with an Ark Linux installation. Use the Trinity Live CD so that we can keep compat.
(pst. For rpm installations i'm stealing from suse kde3. Hehe.)
-- later, Robert Xu
Every email client/web-based service I've used (including Gmail) top
posts by default, but we do need to have some kind of rule about that to keep things organized.
what's wrong with the menus being done on Ark? I doubt there would be any difference with the menu config files since they use the same exact format with the same exact file extension. The only possible differences would be the program names and the commands to run them.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:36, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
Tim, Those should be dropped into the directory where Trinity keeps it's Kmenu config files for the logged in user, preferably backing up and removing the original menu *.desktop files beforehand to keep from a conflict.
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Hi Kate,
Thanks for the file. Is there a README file that goes along with it? I am not sure what I am supposed to do with its contents to view your menu idea.
Thnaks!
Tim
Attached is the working (for me) mock of a focused kmenu. It still needs polishing. I'm sure it still missing things or can be focused further. I would really like input on how to improve the structure as well as any errors I may have made.
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Katheryne Draven < borgqueen4@gmail.com
borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok I'll make the mock up (just a directory with .desktop etc) in a day or two.
Hope truly hope it helps. I would be nice to see years of work put to good use. Its based on my observations of people menu search behavior. What they intuitively look for.
24 to 48 hrs...
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Timothy Pearson < kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net
kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Sure, I'd be interested!
Tim
> I've been working on a kmenu setup designed to focus the menu sets
so
> they don't take over the screen when you open it, also to make it > easier to track down the item you want. Is anyone interested in
seeing
> it? If so I can create a simple mock up. > > Kate > > On 1/9/11, Ilya Chernykh < neptunia@mail.runeptunia@mail.ru>
wrote:
>> Hi! It is not a secret that all major desktop environments have
their
>> registered desktop categories for .desktop files. Since the KDE >> category >> has >> been hijacked by KDE4, don't you plan to submit request for >> registration >> of >> a >> Trinity category? >> >
Top posting! grrr... Kate, these were made with an Ark Linux installation. Use the Trinity Live CD so that we can keep compat.
(pst. For rpm installations i'm stealing from suse kde3. Hehe.)
-- later, Robert Xu
Every email client/web-based service I've used (including Gmail) top
posts by default, but we do need to have some kind of rule about that to keep things organized.
what's wrong with the menus being done on Ark? I doubt there would be any difference with the menu config files since they use the same exact format with the same exact file extension. The only possible differences would be the program names and the commands to run them.
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
And I didn't know there was a Trinity Live? Unless you're referring to a remaster of, e.g. Ubuntu or Debian? (please don't say Ubuntu! i could NEVER get it working right on any machine)
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:55, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.comwrote:
[SNIP]
And I didn't know there was a Trinity Live? Unless you're referring to a remaster of, e.g. Ubuntu or Debian? (please don't say Ubuntu! i could NEVER get it working right on any machine)
Remaster of Ubuntu. You can also use Debian Squeeze while I sort out some spec file editing for Fedora.
-- later, Robert Xu
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 04:53:41 Kristopher Gamrat wrote: [...]
Every email client/web-based service I've used (including Gmail) top posts by default, but we do need to have some kind of rule about that to keep things organized.
http://idallen.com/topposting.html
The signal you are sending along with a top-posted reply is:
* I don't have time to edit out irrelevant context and signatures * I expect you to remember the context for my email messages * I want you do the work to figure out what I said * My time is more important than your time
what's wrong with the menus being done on Ark? I doubt there would be any
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 04:53:41 Kristopher Gamrat wrote: [...]
Every email client/web-based service I've used (including Gmail) top posts by default, but we do need to have some kind of rule about that to keep things organized.
http://idallen.com/topposting.html
The signal you are sending along with a top-posted reply is:
- I don't have time to edit out irrelevant context and signatures
- I expect you to remember the context for my email messages
- I want you do the work to figure out what I said
- My time is more important than your time
what's wrong with the menus being done on Ark? I doubt there would be any
-- Serghei.
I would like to utilize bottom-posted replies on all of the Trinity mailing lists. Also, I apologize for the couple of times that I mindlessly top posted, as that was incorrect.
Enforcement will be limited to a friendly reminder, so you don't have to worry too much about mistakes. ;-)
Thanks!
Tim
@Serghei Yes, I quite agree. I do try to remember to bottom post. There are, however, some people that no matter how many times you tell them, they always top-post.
@Rob You were complaining before in another thread that the top posting was messing with your Gmail. I was trying to point out that with the default, it can sometimes be hard to remember to bottom-post until the habbit is formed.
I have had trouble with Fedora as well. As for Debian, while the core system does seem stable, I've had trouble with the DE's (KDE 3 Official, KDE4, Trinity KDE, and GNOME are the ones I've tried). I am in the process of setting up my only spare desktop as a personal Ark Linux build server to get my Trinity packages going. It's going to be troublesome considering our man on top can't seem to get the dependency mess in dockyard-devel straightened out (even after manually downloading and installing Zypper and it's deps and adding the repos, it'd constantly complaining of different programs being compiled with different versions of the same library, I think the current problem is with libpng).
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
Sorry there was a read me but I failed to attach it. Its just a mock to show what a kmenu could be like. Categories etc. Focused categories make it easier for people to search for an app. For example, avidemux would be find in Multimedia/video/editing.
A focused menu keeps kmenu from eating the entire screen as well.
On 1/18/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
@Serghei Yes, I quite agree. I do try to remember to bottom post. There are, however, some people that no matter how many times you tell them, they always top-post.
@Rob You were complaining before in another thread that the top posting was messing with your Gmail. I was trying to point out that with the default, it can sometimes be hard to remember to bottom-post until the habbit is formed.
I have had trouble with Fedora as well. As for Debian, while the core system does seem stable, I've had trouble with the DE's (KDE 3 Official, KDE4, Trinity KDE, and GNOME are the ones I've tried). I am in the process of setting up my only spare desktop as a personal Ark Linux build server to get my Trinity packages going. It's going to be troublesome considering our man on top can't seem to get the dependency mess in dockyard-devel straightened out (even after manually downloading and installing Zypper and it's deps and adding the repos, it'd constantly complaining of different programs being compiled with different versions of the same library, I think the current problem is with libpng).
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
As for why it was made on Ark. Currently trinity doesn't work well on my primary machines. I use extremely complicated machines and it seems to mess up most distros. Ark & vector are the first and currently still the only distros that can run everything perfectly. No offense to anyone, these machines are old school, new tech monsters.
Also, it was only intended as a mock up example. I expected it would be tweaked, refined, adapted etc to fit each distros that have adopted Trinity (which is growing everyday w00t).
I hope that answers everything and I hope its useful.
Kate
On 1/19/11, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry there was a read me but I failed to attach it. Its just a mock to show what a kmenu could be like. Categories etc. Focused categories make it easier for people to search for an app. For example, avidemux would be find in Multimedia/video/editing.
A focused menu keeps kmenu from eating the entire screen as well.
On 1/18/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
@Serghei Yes, I quite agree. I do try to remember to bottom post. There are, however, some people that no matter how many times you tell them, they always top-post.
@Rob You were complaining before in another thread that the top posting was messing with your Gmail. I was trying to point out that with the default, it can sometimes be hard to remember to bottom-post until the habbit is formed.
I have had trouble with Fedora as well. As for Debian, while the core system does seem stable, I've had trouble with the DE's (KDE 3 Official, KDE4, Trinity KDE, and GNOME are the ones I've tried). I am in the process of setting up my only spare desktop as a personal Ark Linux build server to get my Trinity packages going. It's going to be troublesome considering our man on top can't seem to get the dependency mess in dockyard-devel straightened out (even after manually downloading and installing Zypper and it's deps and adding the repos, it'd constantly complaining of different programs being compiled with different versions of the same library, I think the current problem is with libpng).
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
Doesn't gmail bottom post automatically?
On 1/19/11, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
As for why it was made on Ark. Currently trinity doesn't work well on my primary machines. I use extremely complicated machines and it seems to mess up most distros. Ark & vector are the first and currently still the only distros that can run everything perfectly. No offense to anyone, these machines are old school, new tech monsters.
Also, it was only intended as a mock up example. I expected it would be tweaked, refined, adapted etc to fit each distros that have adopted Trinity (which is growing everyday w00t).
I hope that answers everything and I hope its useful.
Kate
On 1/19/11, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry there was a read me but I failed to attach it. Its just a mock to show what a kmenu could be like. Categories etc. Focused categories make it easier for people to search for an app. For example, avidemux would be find in Multimedia/video/editing.
A focused menu keeps kmenu from eating the entire screen as well.
On 1/18/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
@Serghei Yes, I quite agree. I do try to remember to bottom post. There are, however, some people that no matter how many times you tell them, they always top-post.
@Rob You were complaining before in another thread that the top posting was messing with your Gmail. I was trying to point out that with the default, it can sometimes be hard to remember to bottom-post until the habbit is formed.
I have had trouble with Fedora as well. As for Debian, while the core system does seem stable, I've had trouble with the DE's (KDE 3 Official, KDE4, Trinity KDE, and GNOME are the ones I've tried). I am in the process of setting up my only spare desktop as a personal Ark Linux build server to get my Trinity packages going. It's going to be troublesome considering our man on top can't seem to get the dependency mess in dockyard-devel straightened out (even after manually downloading and installing Zypper and it's deps and adding the repos, it'd constantly complaining of different programs being compiled with different versions of the same library, I think the current problem is with libpng).
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
Good idea--I am attempting to get this implemented ASAP.
Tim
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Timothy Pearson < kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
@Tim As a suggestions, perhaps setup the mailing list to put something like a header saying "Please post replies below the footer to keep things organized" and a footer saying "Please reply below here to keep things organized" on every message coming through the mailing list? It's what we do with the Ark Linux mailing list (at least with the footer). Perhaps make it bold so people won't miss it (of course, some people disable HTML in their email clients, so the bold may just get in the way).
Good idea--I am attempting to get this implemented ASAP.
Tim
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@Kate,
No, Gmail has ALWAYS top posted be default. As I'm assuming you noticed, we were discussing the whole top-posting versus bottom-posting issue, but your messages are still top-posted. Please start bottom-posting. We keep repeating that because it makes things very disorganized when we have people both top posting and bottom posting. So please start bottom posting.
I haven been unable to get Vector working on my machine. I tried the Kde-classic version of their 6.0 release, and I had issues with sound, wireless, and the intel video driver. I've been unable to run Yoper as well with frequent kernel panics and a mix of RPM4 and RPM5 in their repos. Ark Linux 2008.1 is too outdated for my laptop, and dockyard-devel has a huge dependency mess in the repos (I'm going to keep pestering bero to fix stuff so I can build Trinity). Of the major distros, the one that works the best is Debian, and I am stuck using the beta for Squeeze for it's support of more recent hardware. It's UI has been rather unstable, though, and there are times that I have to drop down to runlevel 3 and bump back up to 5 to restart all the GUI stuff. I haven't had any kind of luck with any other distros as of yet.
Good news is, I finally have a semi-working install of Ark dokcyard-devel on my laptop, and I am downloading the Trinity 3.5.12 tarballs and Ark's SRPMs for KDE 3.5 from 2008.1 to adapt the specs to Trinity. I'll also make sure to go after bero to get stuff fixed so we can actually start testing. I'll even try to apply Kate's menu system to the packages in the Trinity tarballs.
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 17:27, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
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^ take the footer out, tyvm ^
@Kate, No, Gmail has ALWAYS top posted be default.
Thunderbird ftw (even though it takes up too much ram)
Anyway, back to the subject of a menu mockup. Kate, any chance that we can have a odt document or something of that sort? In the meantime, I'll be staring at this and seeing if I have any suggestions to this... *stares*
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
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^ take the footer out, tyvm ^
@Kate, No, Gmail has ALWAYS top posted be default.
Thunderbird ftw (even though it takes up too much ram)
Kmail much better ;-) better integration with spamassassin and ClamAV, better integration with KDE, and can optionally integrate with Kontact, which is much better than Outlook and (IMO) Evolution any day ;-)
Anyway, back to the subject of a menu mockup. Kate, any chance that we can have a odt document or something of that sort? In the meantime, I'll be staring at this and seeing if I have any suggestions to this... *stares*
If you're looking to open the .desktop files in OpenOffice or something, they should open as text documents (File -> Open -> Navigate to the file you want -> Choose to open as a text document, the defaults work well for most files, haven't tried with these yet however). If you're talking about having all the .desktop entries in a single file, then having an odt would be great. As for installing the .desktop files, a simple text file saying "To install these, drop them in this directory; keep in mind that the entries may not actually open when you click them in the menu if the programs they list are not installed."
On 1/19/11, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
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^ take the footer out, tyvm ^
@Kate, No, Gmail has ALWAYS top posted be default.
Thunderbird ftw (even though it takes up too much ram)
Anyway, back to the subject of a menu mockup. Kate, any chance that we can have a odt document or something of that sort? In the meantime, I'll be staring at this and seeing if I have any suggestions to this... *stares*
-- later, Robert Xu
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I hadn't noticed my replies were on top, since it displays it on the bottom here. Perhaps its because I use the classic and not newer version of gmail.
Anyway as for Robert's request for a odt of the menu mockup, no problem will work on it tomorrow when I have the chance.
It will be a lengthy bugger but if I get Robert's thinking, it will be more useful from a collaborative view point.
Kate
PS Let's see if this bottom posted
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:49, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
I hadn't noticed my replies were on top, since it displays it on the bottom here. Perhaps its because I use the classic and not newer version of gmail.
Anyway as for Robert's request for a odt of the menu mockup, no problem will work on it tomorrow when I have the chance.
It will be a lengthy bugger but if I get Robert's thinking, it will be more useful from a collaborative view point.
Kate
Yay, it bottom posted! :P I'll be waiting on the odt :)
@Piki: I can just open them with gedit. lol.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:49, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
I hadn't noticed my replies were on top, since it displays it on the bottom here. Perhaps its because I use the classic and not newer version of gmail.
Anyway as for Robert's request for a odt of the menu mockup, no problem will work on it tomorrow when I have the chance.
It will be a lengthy bugger but if I get Robert's thinking, it will be more useful from a collaborative view point.
Kate
Yay, it bottom posted! :P I'll be waiting on the odt :)
@Piki: I can just open them with gedit. lol.
-- later, Robert Xu
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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 22:49, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
I hadn't noticed my replies were on top, since it displays it on the bottom here. Perhaps its because I use the classic and not newer version of gmail.
Anyway as for Robert's request for a odt of the menu mockup, no problem will work on it tomorrow when I have the chance.
It will be a lengthy bugger but if I get Robert's thinking, it will be more useful from a collaborative view point.
Kate
Yay, it bottom posted! :P I'll be waiting on the odt :)
@Piki: I can just open them with gedit. lol.
Sorry for that random send... I am used to using a mouse and arrow to navigate my gmail, and I seem to have Xorg screwed up somehow where it won't accept any mouse clicks, and in a panic to get back to my reply box, I hit enter on the send button...
@Robert: gedit that's the GNOME text editor right? I can't say I've used it (even in GNOME I still used Kwrite), but why not Kedit, Kwrite, or Kate (the program, not the Borg with the menu mockup)? Kate can load multiple files into tabs and can have different profiles with different sets of files open, would really make things quick to switch between the different .desktop files.
Back on subject, though... @Kate: Just to confirm, those were created on Ark 2008.1 using the same program names and file names (on the exec line) as Ark? That should make it easier to adjust for the next release, I'm actually planning to start building Trinity tomorrow after work (provided I have enough energy, it's been crowded at Wally World lately). Once I get done with that, I can get to work on testing your menu entries with some of our packages, even including them in their corresponding packages. You'll also be able to get a visual on what your menu mockup will look like and if it works if you haven't already (I'm assuming you have already).
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:54, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Robert Xu robxu9@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 2011, at 21:36, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
Tim, Those should be dropped into the directory where Trinity keeps it's Kmenu config files for the logged in user, preferably backing up and removing the original menu *.desktop files beforehand to keep from a conflict.
-- Kris "Piki" Ark Linux Webmaster Trinity KDE Packager
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Hi Kate,
Thanks for the file. Is there a README file that goes along with it? I am not sure what I am supposed to do with its contents to view your menu idea.
Thnaks!
Tim
Attached is the working (for me) mock of a focused kmenu. It still needs polishing. I'm sure it still missing things or can be focused further. I would really like input on how to improve the structure as well as any errors I may have made.
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Katheryne Draven < borgqueen4@gmail.com
borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok I'll make the mock up (just a directory with .desktop etc) in a day or two.
Hope truly hope it helps. I would be nice to see years of work put to good use. Its based on my observations of people menu search behavior. What they intuitively look for.
24 to 48 hrs...
Thanks
Kate
On 1/10/11, Timothy Pearson < kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net
kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Sure, I'd be interested!
Tim
I've been working on a kmenu setup designed to focus the menu sets so they don't take over the screen when you open it, also to make it easier to track down the item you want. Is anyone interested in
seeing
it? If so I can create a simple mock up.
Kate
On 1/9/11, Ilya Chernykh < neptunia@mail.runeptunia@mail.ru>
wrote:
> Hi! It is not a secret that all major desktop environments have
their
> registered desktop categories for .desktop files. Since the KDE > category > has > been hijacked by KDE4, don't you plan to submit request for > registration > of > a > Trinity category? >
Top posting! grrr... Kate, these were made with an Ark Linux installation. Use the Trinity Live CD so that we can keep compat.
(pst. For rpm installations i'm stealing from suse kde3. Hehe.)
-- later, Robert Xu
Every email client/web-based service I've used (including Gmail) top
posts by default, but we do need to have some kind of rule about that to keep things organized.
Then always ignore the default. Hell, it's easy to scroll down.
what's wrong with the menus being done on Ark? I doubt there would be
On Ubuntu/Debian Trinity PPA we use a package to remedy this, if I am correct. Use that package and everything should be modified.
any difference with the menu config files since they use the same exact format with the same exact file extension. The only possible differences would be the program names and the commands to run them.
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