26 Dec
2014
26 Dec
'14
5:25 a.m.
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On 12/26/2014 04:26 AM, Slávek Banko wrote:
Well, "too much" is subjective. Basically the "general" user is trying
to upgrade from a previous kde-install, so this
step is just installing whatever package was not upgraded from step 2.
On my wheezy installation steps 2 install about 250 packages and step 3 about 200 if my
memory is right. The total is
about 450, which is similar to the number you reported on a previous email
(http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::14312)
On Tuesday 23 of December 2014 09:11:53 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
Note: only 64 new packages installed.
On 2014/12/22 07:26 PM, Slávek Banko wrote:
No problems.
On Monday 22 of December 2014 11:06:20 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
packages to
Looks like the mirror is now fully working, since
it takes less than 30 minutes to do a fully upgrade. So I
have tested sevaral ways to upgrade from a standard 3.5.13.2 install to 14.0.0. The
sequence suggested by
Mike seems to be the most reliable/reproducable, but with some tweeks. 1) apt-get update
2) apt-get install
tde-trinity. This fails at some point. 3) apt-get -f install. This succeeded, but trying
to login after this
stage gives the error "Could not start kstartupconfig...." 4) apt-get
dist-upgrade After this stage, I have a
fully working TDE R14.0.0 system. Running aptitude in CLI mode and pressing 'g',
comes up with a list of
packages that can be deleted. This at times is most of the TDE installation. To fix this
do the following.
5) run 'aptitude', search tde-trinity (which should be shown as *un*installed,
mark as 'to install' and 'g'.
This will make R14.0.0 stick in your system 6) running 'aptitude' and pressing
'g' again, comes up with a
list of packages that can be deleted. Proceed.
I have noticed over several upgrade runs, that the list of packages that can be deleted
is not always the
same, not sure why although some of the upgrade run were interrupted/resumed several
times due to the slow
download bandwidth of previous days. It seems that dummy packages have to be manually
removed. dpkg -l | grep
-i dummy gives a list of such packages.
I will modify the installation instructions adding an "Update from 3.5.13.2"
section to it. If you have any
specific comments that you would like to add to the above, please let me know (once again
:-) )
Cheers Michele
I must again point out - if the user perform a manual selection of install, the process containing "apt-get
install tde-trinity" is not
an just
upgrade, but will install many other packages.
Moreover, as you
mention, this
step fails. That does not sound like a good way
to upgrade.
Please, test this simple procedure:
1) apt-get update 2) aptitude dist-upgrade
As I've mentioned many times before, this procedure on all my test
machines
ran smoothly - without any hitch - and it's
"really just upgrade".
Slavek, I tested your way and the upgrade goes smooth. Nevertheless after the process is
completed a lot of dummy
packages are still installed. Using the following procedure gets rid of those dummy
packages and leaves a clean
upgrade.
1) apt-get update 2) aptitude dist-upgrade
96 packages upgraded, 64 newly installed, 15 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get
147 MB of archives. After
unpacking 63.7 MB will be used.
No problems. 3) aptitude
install tde-trinity -> then choose to resolve the conflict by removing kde-trinity
and
kde-core-trinity
0 packages upgraded, 406 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 231
MB of archives. After
unpacking 626 MB will be used.
Oops, that's a bit much.
I think we could recommend something like this:
If you had installed metapackage kde-trinity, kde-core-trinity or kde-devel-trinity,
these are not updated
automatically. For the update is necessary to use one of the following:
aptitude install tde-trinity aptitude install tde-core-trinity aptitude install
tde-devel-trinity
As I watched, there are several transitional dummy packages which would still have had to
be removed manually. For
example kde-i18n-*, kio-locate, kradio,... For such I would suggest the following:
4) Run aptitude in interactive mode, enter Limit Display '~i-trinity~ddummy" and
manually check and delete unneeded
packages.
>
> Can you test on your machines as well and let me know? If confirmed, I will update
the installation
> instructions. Cheers Michele
>
What about we propose two possibilities?
1) same as the one I proposed. This one would basically upgrade/install all TDE R14.0.0
and get rid of dummy packages.
This solution would be intended for "generic" users who want a simple way to
upgrade all TDE
2) same solution that you suggested, i.e. step 1 and step 2, then run aptitude in
interactive mode, enter Limit
Display '~i-trinity~ddummy" and manually check/delete unneeded packages and
install equivalent tde packages.
This would be intended for more expert users, who can choose what to install and what
not.
What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
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