tde-users November 2010

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Furture of KDE3 questions
by Larry Stotler 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

High guys. This may have been spelled out somewhere, but if so I missed it, so please bear with me. I've been a KDE user since 1.x which was part of SuSE v5.3. Up till KDE4, I was always found KDE to do what I needed. I have some questions about the future direction of KDE3: 1. Qt4 port - I saw that this is one the roadmap. Is this really neccessary? I know that a lot of my complaints about KDE4 was the useless revamp of the interface, but having to have both Qt3/4 libs was also a huge pain. I'm not against a port if there are compelling reasons for it, but I have seen no compelling reason for KDE4. It uses more memory and space. I have a lot of older laptops that I find KDE3 to be snappy and KDE4 to be like molassas. 2. What about the other KDE projects like KOffice? I've always made use of KOffice instead of anything else. I find OpenOffice to be bloated. 3. Removal of HAL in favor of udev - Is this something that is going to affect KDE3? 4. Dependencies - I'm not sure how it is on other distros, but I've always found SuSE/openSUSE to suffer from unneccessary dependencies. Not everyone has a Palmpilot device, and most PIMs assume you do and force you to install support for something you don't have. I'm not sure how the core KDE and the other projects handle this. How is Trinity planning to do it? 5. XOrg and KDE3 - on openSUSE 11.3, I can't setup my displays because openSUSE removed it's config program SaX2 and I can't get XOrg to work with my displays. Works fine in openSUSE 11.0/KDE3 because I have SaX2. Is there an alternative for configuring displays? Sorry if some of this is a repeat. I'm new to the list, but a longtime KDE user. Thanx

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View mode button(s) in Konqueror
by Sami Järvinen 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Hello, is there a simple way to get the three view mode buttons back? The patch in comment #15 ( https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/43949 ) used to work in Kubuntu, but doesn't work on TDE 3.5.12. Thanks to everyone working on Trinity.

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KDE 3.5.10: deutsche Sprachpakete
by HHa 30 Nov '10

30 Nov '10

Hallo Liste, mir fehlen offensicht einige deutsche Sprachpakete. Welche könntenb das sein? -- Viele Grüße, Hartmut Haase Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com Ohne Zensur suchen: http://suche.amnesty-bergedorf.de/ ökologisch suchen: http://www.ecosia.de Das heutige Motto: Ist der Chef nicht da, entscheidet sein Stellvertreter. Ist auch der nicht da, entscheidet der gesunde Menschenverstand.

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cmake porting status
by Serghei Amelian 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hello, Short status: - kdelibs - usable - kdebase/libkonq - done - kdebase/kate - done - kdebase/konqueror - done - kdebase/kioslave - partial complete (without SAMBA/LDAP support) - kdebase/kicker - work in progress -- Serghei

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kdelibs4c2a
by HHa 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

Hi, kdelibs4c2a and kdelibs4c2a-kde3 cannot be installed on the same system. Why not? -- Viele Grüße, Hartmut Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com Ohne Zensur suchen: http://suche.amnesty-bergedorf.de/ ökologisch suchen: http://www.ecosia.de Das heutige Motto: Reich ist, wer sich bescheidet mit dem, was er hat.

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2.Kubuntu 10.04 installation problem with kde3
by Uwe Brauer 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Hello I followed Jochens advice and everyting wernt smppth but now when I tried to install new packages I receive The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 136 not upgraded. 466 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/18.0MB of archives. After this operation, 62.5MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (Reading database ... 253887 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/colors/40.colors', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking kdelibs4c2a (from .../kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/khotnewstuffrc', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 Processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) oub@euler:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge khotnewstuffrc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree what can I do? Uwe Brauer

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Fwd: Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] 2.Kubuntu 10.04 installation problem with kde3
by Jochen Vortkamp 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:46:24 +0100 Von: "Jochen Vortkamp" <jochen_vortkamp(a)gmx.de> An: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Betreff: Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] 2.Kubuntu 10.04 installation problem with kde3 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:34:28 +0100 > Von: Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> > An: kubuntu-kde3.5-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Betreff: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] 2.Kubuntu 10.04 installation problem with kde3 > Hello > > I followed Jochens advice and everyting wernt smppth but now when I > tried to install new packages I receive > The following extra packages will be installed: > kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a > The following NEW packages will be installed: > kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a > 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 136 not upgraded. > 466 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0B/18.0MB of archives. > After this operation, 62.5MB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y > (Reading database ... 253887 files and directories currently installed.) > Unpacking kdelibs-data (from > .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/colors/40.colors', which is also in > package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Unpacking kdelibs4c2a (from > .../kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/khotnewstuffrc', which is also in > package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 > Processing triggers for man-db ... > Errors were encountered while processing: > > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb > > /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > oub@euler:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge khotnewstuffrc > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > > > what can I do? > > Uwe Brauer Hi. I'm not at my Linux Machine. But I think, you must install bevor: kdelibs4c21-kde3 and kdelibs-data-kde3 In Console: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c21-kde3 kdelibs-data-kde3 Hope it works, Jochen Oh! not: kdelibs4c21-kde3, kdelibs4c2a-kde3 !!! -- GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome

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still can't install trinity on kubuntu 10.4
by Uwe Brauer 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Hello I have the following difficulties. 1. I install kubuntu 10.4 2 I modify the source.list file and follow the instructions from the webpage however I obtain sudo apt-get install kdelibs4c2a-kde3 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done kdelibs4c2a-kde3 is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libskim0: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed skim: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 150 not upgraded. 396 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/18.0MB of archives. After this operation, 62.5MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y (Reading database ... 118145 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kdelibs-data (from .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/colors/40.colors', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking kdelibs4c2a (from .../kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/kde3/khotnewstuffrc', which is also in package kdelibs-data-kde3 4:3.5.12-0ubuntu6+r1152788 Processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu2.10.04.1_amd64.deb would it be better to install ubuntu 10.4 instead of kubuntu and tehn try to install trinity? thanks Uwe Brauer

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[trinity-users] Trinity-Lite Installation
by David Hare 14 Nov '10

14 Nov '10

The recommended way to install Trinity is: apt-get install desktop-base-trinity kde-trinity This will install a lot of stuff many users do not need. I prefer a more minimal, customised system. I also make Trinity live-cd's, in which case disk space is an issue. My method is: ############################################## for i in $( cat kicklist-kde-trinity ) do apt-get -y --force-yes install $i done #################################################### I do that on a basic Squeeze install, out of X. The result seems good and everything works. Below is an example of my kicklist-kde-trinity. It would of course vary to individual requirement Any comments? Probably there are unnecessary lines in the list, e.g. deps of Konqueror or Konsole which get pulled in anyway. Have I missed anything important? Could an official trinity-lite method be included in the installation instructions? ################################################################################ amarok-trinity ark-trinity gwenview-trinity gtk2-engines-qt-trinity k3b-trinity k3b-data-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kaffeine-trinity kcalc-trinity kappfinder-trinity karm-trinity kate-trinity kate-plugins-trinity kcoloredit-trinity kcontrol-trinity kcron-trinity kde-core-trinity kde-i18n-engb-trinity kde-style-qtcurve-trinity kdeaddons-kfile-plugins-trinity kdeartwork-trinity kdeartwork-emoticons-trinity kdeartwork-misc-trinity kdeartwork-style-trinity kdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity kdeartwork-theme-window-trinity kdebase-trinity kdebase-data-trinity kdebase-kio-plugins-trinity kdeeject-trinity kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-trinity kdelibs-trinity kdelibs-data-trinity kdelibs4c2a-trinity kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-trinity kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-trinity kdepasswd-trinity kdeprint-trinity kdesktop-trinity kdf-trinity kdiff3-trinity kdirstat-trinity kdm-trinity kfind-trinity kget-trinity kghostview-trinity khelpcenter-trinity kicker-trinity kicker-applets-trinity kio-locate-trinity kipi-plugins-trinity klipper-trinity kmenuedit-trinity kmix-trinity knemo-trinity knotes-trinity konq-plugins-trinity konqueror-trinity konqueror-nsplugins-trinity konsole-trinity konversation-trinity kpager-trinity kpdf-trinity kpersonalizer-trinity kpowersave-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kscreensaver-trinity kscreensaver-xsavers-trinity ksensors-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksnapshot-trinity ksplash-trinity ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity ksvg-trinity ksysguard-trinity ksysguardd-trinity ktip-trinity ktorrent-trinity kuser-trinity kwin-trinity kwin-style-crystal-trinity soundkonverter-trinity

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Debian LiveCD with Trinity
by Dima K. 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Hello, my name is Dima and I'm a Puppy Linux contributor and Debian fan. I wish to create a Debian (or Ubuntu, if it won't work) LiveCD with Trinity and I don't know how to do this. I've seen the Ubuntu ISOs with Trinity and I want to do the same, but with Debian and a different choice of packages. I read about DebianLive and the manual method to construct an Ubuntu LiveCD, but the former's documentation is lacking and the latter seems complicated and outdated. At the moment I'm trying to figure out how to use Debian Live (according to http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/live-manual.html) and I'm kinda stuck. So ... my question is: how can I do this (or, how did you create the Ubuntu LiveCD)? Thank you! Dima

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