tde-users June 2022

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Is Bluetooth free?
by lee892533＠gmail.com 09 Jan '25

09 Jan '25

Yes, the songs are transmitted to your headphones, but that's over a paired Bluetooth connection between the headphone and the phone. And there's no cost to that. You only pay for the data transmitted to your smart device over the phone company's network by way of using the app. https://spacebarcounter.org

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Error - Kicker; Malformed URL; system:/
by Felix Miata 21 Nov '23

21 Nov '23

I see this error popup on various installations. The instant one is a 32bit Bookworm freshly upgraded from Bullseye with 14.0.12. Bullseye does it too. The trigger is left clicking on the menu starter. On those where it ever occurs, it only happens once. Trying again after dismissing the popup always works. Anyone familiar with it, what to do to eliminate it? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Ksnapshot
by phiebie＠drei.at 03 Mar '23

03 Mar '23

Trinity 14.0.6 preliminary. Don't know if it is a feature of ksnapshot or a misconfiguration somewhere from me, but it is getting absolutely annoying what happens. I have a website, a document or whatsoever on my screen in full A4-papersize. Now I want a printout of a small part of it. Call ksnapshot, choose "region" "new snapshot" and then draw a border around the desired part. Press "print" and then print it. Bull... I get a print in landscape, useless and even worse not even the original layout reappears. Stop ksnapshot, restart it and same procedure with again the same miserable result. Stop, restart, same procedure but no actual printing, instead I look into the printer properties. And there, big surprise, landscape was marked as to be printed BUT all 4 orientations were grayed out, so I couldn't change that. Checked in tdeprint the printersettings, nothing wrong, in "instances" "settings" all 4 orientations were available and portrait was marked as to be applied in the default printer. Checked kprinter and of course the settings of tdeprint were there also valid. But then I had an idea. If I selected in ksnapshot a larger part of the screen, say more than half A4, what would happen? Yes, some ugly words from me and there it was: portrait was marked but still all 4 possibilities grayed out. So ksnapshot decides how it wants to print and doesn't leave the user a chance to get a result, that he wants. Utterly bull.... Any suggestion, where I could look to alter this behaviour? Phiebie.

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[Re:] kmail: tdeio crashes
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 29 Jul '22

29 Jul '22

Hi Slavek! >On Tuesday 14 of June 2022 10:04:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >... > >Hi Nik, > >the "WARNING: SSL_get_peer_certificate not defined!" message makes it aware >that this is related to the OpenSSL library update - the KSSL module >failed to find the necessary functions in the library. > >This will require to check the compatibility of the new SSL library API and >make the necessary modifications in the code. Thank you for the warning! > >Cheers >-- >Slávek (Looks like some mails didn't make it to the list.) This is the last version of tdelibs14-trinity that results in kmail beeing able to use pop3 and smtp: tdelibs14-trinity_4%3a14.1.0~s640-0debian12.0.0+18~a_amd64.deb All newer versions break. I just tried with tdelibs-trinity_4%3a14.1.0~s642-0debian12.0.0+18~a_all.deb IMO the OpenSSL update has nothing to do with it, otherwise the older versions should break, not the newer versions. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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fish: vs. sftp:
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 15 Jul '22

15 Jul '22

Hi all! I just noticed that on daedalus sftp:/...-URLs do not work any more. Konqueror is stuck with a rotating circle and eventually times out. fish:/...-URLs work, but calculating the disk size of remote directories is kind of buggy, e.g. 22GB are counted as 9GB. Did somebody see this, too? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Linux Magazine's article on TDE
by Michael 06 Jul '22

06 Jul '22

Not sure if it's a hit piece or legitimate news reporting, but I recently found this: https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/254/Trinity-Desktop I didn't buy the article, so no telling what their conclusion is. Thought I'd share, best, Michael

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TDE display control messes up colors on RPi with full KMS driver
by Leskala 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Hello everyone, I'm running TDE R14.0.12 on Debian 11 (bullseye) using a Raspberry Pi 2B. With the Debian 11 (bullseye) release of the Raspberry Pi OS, the RPi offers 2 display drivers: "vc4-kms-v3d" (full KMS) and "vc4-fkms-v3d" (fake KMS). Till Debian 10 the fake one was default, now it is the full KMS and the fake KMS driver is supposed to be no longer actively supported (though it can still be switched to). The new default driver (full KMS) poses new issues with the display handling of TDE in terms of color (or gamma) management. As soon as TDE's display management is used, the colors get all weird like the whole screen gets rainbow-colored with very low color depth. Here's a photo I took (it doesn't show up on screenshots): https://i.imgur.com/DIaIP9m.jpeg - using xrandr or TDERandRTray to switch resolutions is fine - using the Trinity control center's "System Administration" > "Monitor & Display" > "Enable global display control" will make colors go crazy as shown in the photo - moving the "Hardware Gamma Control" sliders in the control center will alter the shades of rainbow colors but never fixes the general color distortion - using "xrandr --output HDMI-1 --gamma 1:1:1" will fix colors until reboot - when global display control is enabled, this is persistent and colors will go crazy as soon as TDM starts after bootup I'd like to keep the new (full KMS) driver since the old fkms one always had other issues were KMix's audio volumes would scale between -350% and -400% (yes, negative values) while alsamixer being at 50%, effectively preventing any working volume control in TDE since sliders start at 0. This is fixed with the full KMS driver as it handles the audio devices differently. However, with the new driver I can't make permanent adjustments to screen resolutions with TDE (only temporary with RandR) as I encounter the color bug as described above. Is there anything I can do about it? Should I file a bug somewhere? Best regards, Leskala

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Is TDE capable of communicating with apps like Firefox?
by jakolineplayer＠tutanota.com 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Hello, the default file manager for TDE is Konqueror, also Dolphin is available in the repos, is either of them capable of communicating with modern versions of Firefox to do things such as opening folders and selecting (highlight) the downloaded files? Also, as I remember when I used TDE about a year ago, once a foreign file manager is installed (say Caja or pcmanfm) Firefox automatically starts using them to show downloaded files and forgets completely about Konqueror and Dolphin, I know that it's known bug in Firefox, but is there a tested work-around to fix that? Can a TDE user force Firefox to use Konqueror or Dolphin to open files? So my msg contains two questions: 1) Can Firefox communicate with Konqueror or Dolphin to show/highlight my downloaded files and to access my folders? 2) Can I force Firefox to use Konqueror (or Dolphin) as my prefered file manager?

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bad mouse pointer
by Felix Miata 29 Jun '22

29 Jun '22

Using 14.0.13~pre8 on both Bullseye & Bookworm amd64 on old 945G intel graphics using modesetting DIX. I couldn't get the Intel DDX driver to load instead. Mouse pointer at TDM login greeter and in IceWM, LXDE, XFCE & TDM sessions are always the activity spinner. Strings put and ouse in .xsession-errors are absent. What package could be missing, erroneous, or badly configured? installed (Bookworm): input: ii libinput10:amd64 1.21.0-1 ii libinput-bin 1.21.0-1 ii libxcb-xinput0:amd64 1.14-3 ii lxinput 0.3.5-1+b2 ii xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.7+23 ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.10.6-2+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-libinput 1.2.1-1+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.3-1+b1 ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.9.1-2+b1 mouse: ii lxinput 0.3.5-1+b2 ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.9.3-1+b1 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Wallpaper alignment behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop
by Leskala 27 Jun '22

27 Jun '22

Hello everyone, I have 2 issues with the wallpaper setting behavior of Konqueror and KDesktop respectively and possible improvement ideas which I'd like to discuss. 1. Konqueror set-as-wallpaper actions Konqueror offers set-as-wallpaper actions in the right-click menu of images under the "Actions" > "Set as Background" submenu. There are 2 actions in the "Set as Background" category: "Centered" and "Tiled". "Tiled" actually does what its name suggests. However, the "Centered" action does actually lead to "Scaled" in the desktop's wallpaper setting, squishing the image to fit the screen, ignoring the aspect ratio. "Centered" is available in the KDesktop configuration (as in "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu) but is not correctly triggered by this action. So I guess this is actually a bug: the "Centered" option of "Set as Background" in Konqueror's actions leads to "Scaled" not "Centered" in KDesktop. Also, one could consider replacing "Centered" in Konqueror's wallpaper actions by "Scale & Crop" entirely (see below). (By the way, is there a way to modify those actions via config files or are they part of Konqueror's source code?) 2. KDesktop's default wallpaper alignment setting "Scaled" is a poor choice When changing the wallpaper directly in KDesktops configuration dialog (reached via "Configure Desktop..." in the desktop's context menu), upon selecting a new image, the "Position" setting will revert to "Scaled". This is not necessarily a bug, as KDesktop might just have "Scaled" hardcoded as its default and always reverts to it. However, I think "Scaled" is a poor choice for a default by modern standards since it ignores the image's aspect ratio and squishes any image that doesn't perfectly match the current display's aspect ratio. In my opinion, "Scale & Crop" is a much more sensible option and is the default behavior of most modern desktop environments nowadays, as it doesn't squish any images. I think KDesktop should remember the previous "Position" setting when changing the wallpaper file in its dialog and/or the default should be changed to "Scale & Crop", which would fit most situations just fine. Best regards, Leskala

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