Greetings,
Having installed TDE successfully on my desktop, using
tde-3.5.13.2-ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso, I have struck a problem
with my laptop.
Although I have previously installed many other GNU/Linux distros on it
the live disk installs happily but won't install to the hdd. The disk
was written on the laptop. When I select either the install icon or the
item in the menu the CDROM comes to life then stops. A puzzlement!
Is there is a command line I could use? Can anyone help me
finally escape KDE4 using the live disk please?
David
W. Devon
Hi everyone,
I have a few concerns about TDE R14 and 3.5.13.2 SRU
It seems to me that 3.5.13.2 SRU has next to perfect stability, features and reliability, while R14 is not there yet.
By looking at this page: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ , almost all I can see is that the dev team is working very hard to just keep R14 in working conditions. Sometimes Amarok doesn't start, sometimes desktop or menus are unresponsive for a moment, some themes doesn't work completely and it is not like if the user would benefit from a new set of feature or a complete visual overhaul. I cannot see why an user would benefit from using the upcoming R14 when it is compared to the stability of 3.5.13.2 SRU. Everything works as it should in 3.5.13.2. It wolud have been a very good ground for improving TDE on top of it. All of this trouble is supposed to be for the integrations of QT4 parts in TDE, but it seems to me that in R14, it will be used nowhere, not even for a single check-box in a config panel. Maybe it is just me, maybe I would need some explanations.
I mean that if the efforts has been made to make TDE more attractive to new users and to modernize it, it would certainly have more popularity. As well as making a new ''outside'' on top of an outdated car is not good, changing everything under the hood and keeping the old outdated ''outside'' is certainly not better at all. I know that TDE could be better, if some attention could be thrown at things that are not just under the hood.
Just one man's opinion...
Tell us what you think!
-Alexandre
Anybody who wants TDE to look more "modern" (like Windoze, iPutz or whatnot), I say --
LET THEM EAT CAKE!
The charm of the KDE3 desktop is its simplicity. Keep it simple, and let users configure it themselves.
Bill
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On Tuesday 12 November 2013, Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > I have been trying to compile Trinity from source on a relatively current
> > Gentoo system and am running into the following errors:
> >
> > In file included from
> > /offline/1-1/TDE/main/tdebase/kcontrol/tdm/main.cpp:342:0:
> > /offline/1-1/TDE/BUILD/tdebase-3.5.13/kcontrol/background/main.moc:
> > In member function âvirtual void* KBackground::tqt_cast(const char*)â:
> > /offline/1-1/TDE/BUILD/tdebase-3.5.13/kcontrol/background/main.moc:81:41:
> > error: cannot call member function âvirtual void*
> > TDECModule::qt_cast(const char*)â without object
> >
> > and similar errors for tqt_invoke, tqt_emit, and tqt_property.
> >
> > I tried GCC versions 4.7.3, 4.6.3, 4.5.3 and experience the same error.
> > It also occurs regardless of whether I am compiling with current git
> > sources or the Trinity release 3.5.13.2 tarballs I found at
> > http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/releases/3.5.13.2.
> >
> > Anybody else experience this? I tried playing around with the source code
> > (not really knowing what I am doing) to get beyond the error but that just
> > got me linker errors instead. Building TDE had been going pretty smoothly
> > until this.
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> Do you have any version of Qt3 and/or TQt3 other than TQt3 from GIT
> installed on your system?
>
> Tim
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Tim,
I am sure that there was no vestige of a former Qt3 and/or TQt3, at least on some of the systems I tried building in, but your question suggested further investigations about whether I had a truly 'clean room' build environment. I edited the cmake & autoconf shell scripts I was using to build in order to remove influential environment variables and configuration options that were not explicitly called for in your build instructions. After doing so, I was able to get past the compiler error, at least for stock 3.5.13.2. I'll try again tomorrow with the current git sources.
Although there was nothing obviously wrong with my original scripts (designed on the fly to fix build problems from several years ago), I now believe that these somehow bypassed the tqtinterface to tqt3. The main suspects are the setting of the C*_INCLUDE_PATH environment variables and / or passing an improper explicit -DMOC_EXECUTABLE parameter to the cmake configure script.
Thanks for your suggestion, I'm back in operation.
Vince
I have been trying to compile Trinity from source on a relatively current Gentoo system and am running into the following errors:
In file included from /offline/1-1/TDE/main/tdebase/kcontrol/tdm/main.cpp:342:0:
/offline/1-1/TDE/BUILD/tdebase-3.5.13/kcontrol/background/main.moc:
In member function ‘virtual void* KBackground::tqt_cast(const char*)’:
/offline/1-1/TDE/BUILD/tdebase-3.5.13/kcontrol/background/main.moc:81:41: error: cannot call member function ‘virtual void* TDECModule::qt_cast(const char*)’ without object
and similar errors for tqt_invoke, tqt_emit, and tqt_property.
I tried GCC versions 4.7.3, 4.6.3, 4.5.3 and experience the same error. It also occurs regardless of whether I am compiling with current git sources or the Trinity release 3.5.13.2 tarballs I found at http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/releases/3.5.13.2.
Anybody else experience this? I tried playing around with the source code (not really knowing what I am doing) to get beyond the error but that just got me linker errors instead. Building TDE had been going pretty smoothly until this.
I had to logout & log back is using XFCE to get my camera recognized.
Trinity showed an unknown device & I could not get to the pictures
folder on it. Once I logged in using XFCE I was able to get to the
pictures..
here is the syslog entry, but I can't tell if this is trinity or XFCE..
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.305503] usb 1-4.4: new
high-speed U
SB device number 15 using ehci-pci
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.398497] usb 1-4.4: New USB
device f
ound, idVendor=04b0, idProduct=041e
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.398509] usb 1-4.4: New USB
device s
trings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.398517] usb 1-4.4: Product:
NIKON D
SC D60
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.398523] usb 1-4.4:
Manufacturer: NI
KON
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server kernel: [286010.398528] usb 1-4.4:
SerialNumber: 31
46555
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 15:
"/sys/devices
/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.2/usb1/1-4/1-4.4"
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 15 was not an
MTP device
Nov 9 20:59:33 pauls-server colord: Device added: sysfs-NIKON-NIKON_DSC_D60
Nov 9 21:03:31 pauls-server kernel: [286248.278620] usb 1-4.4: USB
disconnect,
device number 15
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Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587
after installing trinity, I finally rebooted for something. When I
restarted Mint, it came up to a trinity desktop window that said to use
CTRL-ALT-DEL to login. but CTRL-ALT-DEL did nothing.. I had to restart
in safe mode, run dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity and change it back to
MDM. what do I need to do to be able to login with tdm-trinity???
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Paul Cartwright
Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587
