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Re: Re: [trinity-users] TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 20 Jun '18

20 Jun '18

> This post got me thinking. since Konqui the dragon is the KDE community's > animal mascot, has anyone given thought to Trinity DE having an animal > mascot? I nominate Corvus Corax (raven). I did get to eat alligator once, > but it was such a small piece, I didn't notice anything distinct about it. > It may very well taste like chicken, but I can't say for sure unless I get > a chance to eat a larger amount someday. Cheers > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:01 AM, William Morder <doctor_contendo(a)zoho.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 20:36:31 dep wrote: > > > weird. as i was reading this just now, alton brown on "good eats" was > > > speculating whether dinosaurs would have tasted like chicken. and no, i > > am > > > not making this up. the episode is entitled "a bird in the pan," and the > > > discussion is about three minutes in. amazing coincidence. > > > > > > dep > > > > Now that is funny! I am just riffing off the top of my head. I didn't see > > the > > show, and only vaguely know it. I watch a several cooking shows, but > > that's > > not one of them. > > > > Don't they say that the crocodilians (including alligators, caimans, etc.) > > are > > basically living fossils, that haven't changed much since the time of > > dinosaurs, except to get smaller on the whole? There are people, I know, > > who > > have eaten them, so maybe there is a clue. > > > > *SNIP* > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of a DOS game I bought (for I think $5 at a > > > > computer > > > show) back in the late 1980s. It had a small install > > > > routine that > > > copied the program to the hard drive and overwrote > > > > autoexec.bat with > > > the name of the executable file. In those days > > > > autoexec.bat could > > > run to a couple of pages, with us all trying > > to > > > > make our machines a > > > little faster and getting use of memory above > > > > 640k, which was a > > > delicate thing. To say nothing of the TSR > > > > programs many of us ran. > > > Setting comspec right after we copied > > > > command.com to a RAM drive. > > > That kind of thing. So autoexec.bat > > was > > > > a nontrivial thing, and > > > turning a well-tuned machine into a > > > > single-game console was > > > troublesome. > > > > I swear, this > > mailing > > > > list is sort of like Jurassic Park: a place > > where dinosaurs still > > > > roam the earth. > > > > Bill > > They still roam the earth, Bill, > > except > > > > now we call them birds. :) I wonder if they tasted like chicken or > > > > turkey, or more gamey like pheasant? Bill > > > > And here I was, ready to pounce on the first person who was itching for a > > fight, who would try to say that mythological dragons, for instance, were > > some kind of dim memory of dinosaurs, or creative attempts to explain > > dinosaur fossils. > > > > Yes, in fact I do know that many dinosaurs (we now discover) had feathers. > > Also, humans and dinosaurs were never* living at the same time. > > > > [* At least, "never", as far as current science know. But then we also > > used to > > say that Homo sapiens never interbred with other humans, such as > > Neanderthals; and we now know that they did, and that all non-Africans > > (Europeans and Asians, mostly) have some Neanderthal genes; and that > > Neanderthals often had red hair.] > > > > Most attempts to explain mythological dragons by the backwards logic of > > referring to dinosaurs are, we find, unconsciously influenced by later > > literature - mostly science fiction and fantasy. Again, since humans were > > never around at the same time as dinosaurs, they could have no memory of > > them > > to feel the need to explain them away; and enormous dinosaur fossils, when > > they were discovered, were usually thought to be the bones of the Giants > > (that is, the Titans of Greek myth, the Vanir of Norse myth, and so on). > > > > Mythological dragons are altogether different; but if I go there, we will > > need > > to start not just a new thread, but a separate forum! > > > > It will be interesting, if we all survive long enough to witness such > > events, > > whether we can actually succeed in cloning and resurrecting extinct > > species > > from their recovered DNA. I don't know about dinosaurs as such; but I > > think > > it would be great to have woolly mammoths and some other species. And dodo > > birds would make an excellent food source, it seems. > > > > When the human race is forced to evacuate the wasteland of our future > > earth, > > and a lucky few will get to colonize other planets, maybe we can take some > > of > > our animals with us. > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Platypus, an impossible creature. Many said TDE would be dead within a year. Now, it's gaining ground to the point, I think, that some are nervous. Kate The Platypus Wrangler. PS it would be a Borg Platypus of course.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs & dragons
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On Monday 18 June 2018 00:26:52 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > On 06/12/2018 09:33 PM, elcaseti wrote: > > > This post got me thinking. since Konqui the dragon is the KDE > > > community's animal mascot, has anyone given thought to Trinity DE having > > > an animal mascot? I nominate Corvus Corax (raven). I did get to eat > > > alligator once, but it was such a small piece, I didn't notice anything > > > distinct about it. It may very well taste like chicken, but I can't say > > > for sure unless I get a chance to eat a larger amount someday. Cheers > > > > No, gator does not taste like chicken, can be used as a replacement. > > Also some say snake, rabbit and squirrel taste like chicken, nope. And > > crawdad taste like crawdad. Any one of them can be used in soup, salad, > > etc. Now if you want to talk about bear, it's best cooked outside the > > house. And taste like bear and I can not compare bear to anything that > > I've eaten. :) Somebody mentioned pheasant, with wild rice stuffing is > > freaking great, I say better than chicken or turkey, if you get a chance > > give pheasant a try. > > > > I've eaten great vegan too. What I call great vegan is where you sit > > and eat great tasting food without realizing you're eating vegan. :) > > > > Cheers! > > I tasted all the others, but not alligator. (Anyway, alligators are an > endangered species, am I right? so I can live without trying it.) I also > lived in a hippie commune for a few years, where everybody was "officially" > vegetarian; which taught me how to get the most nutrition and good taste out > of a meat-free diet, as well as how to combine foods to supply enough > protein. (Read that book, *Diet for a Small Planet*, by Frances Moore Lappe.) > > What nobody knows about vegetarians, though, is that most of them are not > really very strict about it, and they sneak meat into their diet at every > opportunity. > > Bill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been a vegetarians since birth, I have never eaten animals. That's just something carnivore say to make themselves feel better. Kate Hmm wait, do politicians count as animals?

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got a puzzle OT - The last chapter
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

Now then lads, it's time to come to a full stop. Tomorrow it's back to the business of building the world's greatest GUI. Now off to bed with the lot of you! Gn to all Kate > I did not answer at first because I think everyone is free to believe or no= > t,=20 > but this time too much is simply wrong. > > On Wednesday 20 June 2018 02.31:18 Felix Miata wrote: > > It's not a versus. Evolution IS a religion: > > It's definitely *not* > > > http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=3Dt > > ... > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed > > upon by a number of persons or sects:... > > > > "Evolution", as taught, is not subject to proof. > > This is wrong. Just as some may kill member of other religions although the= > irs=20 > tell them not to, I can't make sure that there are not some who "teach"=20 > evolution as a religion, but evolution is a *theory*, that itself has evolv= > ed=20 > once first proposed. It has evolved because scientific evidence has showed= > =20 > that proposed explanations did not fit to facts > > > As taught it's all based=20 > > on theories, aka beliefs.=20 > > Wrong again. A theory is driven by *facts*. It's a model that needs to be=20 > modified if it's not able to explain new facts that are discoverd.=20 > > > Micro-evolution is without question real and=20 > > provable, but micro-evolution is not taught as distinguishable from the > > other 6 types of unprovable evolution, such as that which says dinosaurs > > and man did not coexist. > > This simply comes from the fact that datation methods (which by the way use= > =20 > the same physics that are used in CERN to improve another model, which trie= > s=20 > to explain how matter is made) show that dinosaurs disappeared 65 millions= > =20 > years ago while man in its modern form is some two million years old. > > That's as if you said it is unprovable that I could not meet Darwin. > > > Technically, it's arguably true that dinosaurs=20 > > didn't, because "dinosaur" is a word originally created during the 19th > > century. Before then, the creatures since referred to as dinosaurs were > > called dragons, and there has been found much art on the walls of caves a= > nd > > elsewhere created many tens of centuries ago that indicate man was > > interacting with living dragons. > > =46rom which not a single bone has ever been found. My daughter draws a lot= > =20 > of "animals" that have never existed, and never will exit. (I admit she doe= > s=20 > not draw on a cave). > > > > then I think (or maybe, I believe) that we need to start > > > another thread, if not indeed a separate forum, list, or whatever. > > True. I doubt TDE will ever "evolve" to clear this sort of things :) > > > One of my reasons to reply was to highlight the unending inane off-topic > > threads about coffee, chocolate & dinosaurs polluting this list and its > > archive. If dinosaurs are OK, then anything should go. I'd like to see OT > > stuff keep to a minimum or less. > > =2D-=20 > Prie Dieu mais continue de nager vers le rivage. > (proverbe russe) > > Pray to God but continue to swim to the shore. > (Russian proverb) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > >

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: got a puzzle OT
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> Kate Draven wrote: > > > The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the "Deity" of the "religion" known as > > "The Pastafarians". > > > > More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster > > > > The Line "Heretics and unbelievers will never taste pizza or spaghetti > > again!" is just me. > > > > All hail TFSM creator of chocolate. > > The good thing is that atheists are statistically loosing ground. To be > honest both sides do know nothing about our origins, but the religious are > at least not as pathetic as the modern ideologies or parodies. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- It was the union between the Great Potato and the FSM that gave birth to humanity. They should have used protection. There, mystery solved. Kate PS... this thread is living proof we are all mad.

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> > chocolate is coffee for children. > > > > dep no soup for you! Kate

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qtcurve
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

I was hoping to modify this qtcurve pack to work with tde. I know the item in question is "[KWin]" but now sure that the TDE equivalent would be [TWin]? I don't see anything else that needs changing. Am I wrong? If this works, this puts an end to my elderly pro bono people (mostly the elderly with visual impairments) who keep nagging me about replacing baghira or getting baghira itself to work. Baghira currently crashes most tde apps like konq and kompose for example. Any help would be appreciated. Well GN to all, May the FSM spread it's noodley (noodlie, noodelly? ugh) blessings upon you! Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] got a puzzle OT
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On Sunday 17 June 2018 20:52:34 Felix Miata wrote: > > Gene Heskett composed on 2018-06-10 23:25 (UTC-0400): > > > William Morder wrote: > > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>> William Morder wrote: > > >>>> I swear, this mailing list is sort of like Jurassic Park: a place > > >>>> where dinosaurs still roam the earth. > > >>>> > > >> > They still roam the earth, Bill, except now we call them birds. :) > > >> > > >> I wonder if they tasted like chicken or turkey, or more gamey like > > >> pheasant? > > > > > > I'd have to say that mere mortals like us will never know. Ostrich > > > maybe?, its pretty ancient. > > > > > > Evolution has changed almost everything on this planet in the last 70 > > > million years, including us. > > > > "Evolution" as taught in public schools and universities is 6/7 religion, > > 1/7 science. http://www.ep.tc/problems/59/ is a relatively short 1974 comic > > that explains without fractions. > > > > Evolution as taught has 7 meanings, only one of which is proven science. > > The rest is entirely based on faith in various theories that have not been > > and almost certainly will not ever be proven. More at http://www.icr.org/ > > and elsewhere. > > I believe it's fine for us to express our opinions on subjects about which we > disagree in our individual ways. However, if we start to debate evolution > versus religion, then I think (or maybe, I believe) that we need to start > another thread, if not indeed a separate forum, list, or whatever. > > As I mentioned in an earlier post, we're all here for the same reason: that > amorphous THAT (which is TDE, Linux, free software, etc.), and I hope that > our common interest in THAT doesn't get derailed by disputes. > > Anyway, I am comfortable with my own beliefs, and do not feel the need to > bring enlightenment to others (unless of course they beg me to teach them, > and offer YUGE sums of cold hard cash). > > Bill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- There are only 7 subject I will freely discuss. Chocolate FOSS Sci Fi animals Kids (noisier animals) Pizza Chocolate Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Disabling USB hard drive auto mount
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On 06/11/2018 01:28 AM, Kate Draven wrote: > > Hi people (and others) > > > > I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to disable the auto mount > > function for usb hard drives. > > > > Every time I connect a HD via a usb HD dock. It auto mounts the drive. > > > > Is there anyway to stop this? I think it's udisksd or something. Google was > > useless regarding how to disable it. > > > > I'm asking PCLinuxOS people but I expect I'll get an answer here faster. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Kate > > > Hi Kate, you can write your drive to /etc/fstab using noauto. > > If you want to add it to fstab and need some help let us know the dev > name or uuid, file system type and where you want to mount it, I use > /home/jimmy/sdb1 or it could be /mount/sdb1 or /media/sdb1. Here's a > example of how I handle sdb1 on this desktop. > > '/dev/sdb1 /home/jimmy/01-SDB1 ext4 noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0' > > But what you're seeing seems to be a PC Linux OS thing and is not the > behavior of devuan or debian. > -- > Jimmy Johnson > > Devuan Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 > Registered Linux User #380263 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree, it is a pclos thing. They use udisks2. Which is notorious for automount problems. I can't uninstall it because trinity is dependant on it. I know how to edit the fstab, but would rather not. It's also not going to help because it's rarely the same drive twice. This becomes a problem when/because I'm working on client drive data recovery. I appreciate the help though, Thank you Jimmy Kate

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] Re: Re: TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On Sunday 17 June 2018 14:44:50 Kate Draven wrote: > > > On Sunday 17 June 2018 06:05:04 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > > On Sunday 17 June 2018 14.18:43 William Morder wrote: > > > > > Every time I use the new KDE Plasma, I get so frustrated that I want > > > > > to break something. The same goes for whenever I have to use other > > > > > people's computers, especially if they run Windoze or the rotten > > > > > Apple; and it's even worse when I have to use a public computer. > > > > > > > > > > The only thing that worries me is that I am becoming my own island, > > > > which > > > > > > > is maybe not so good. I am thinking maybe of running a virtual box > > > > inside > > > > > > > my Linux machine, in which I can run Windoze or the rotten Apple or > > > > > some other Linux OS, just to keep up a little with changes that are > > > > > going on "out there". > > > > > > > > I could have written this, or most of it. I don't know if it helps > > > > knowing you're not alone... > > > > > > > > Thierry > > > > > > The Trinity users list is becoming my entire social life. I also wonder > > > if maybe this is not healthy. On the other hand, fewer and fewer people > > > "out there" seem to be really sane; and when I must use their computers, > > > this worries me even more. > > > > > > When I was mostly offline for a few days, trying to migrate from Debian > > > to Devuan, I got 44 emails, of which 43 were from the TDE mailing list. > > > > > > Tomorrow, at any rate, I shall try to make it downstairs, past the front > > > > desk, > > > > > beyond the ice machine, and to go outdoors, maybe even as far as the > > > library and the farmers market. Also, I need coffee. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Bloody hell mate. You're out of coffee? > > > > Kate > > > > I had just enough to get my 2-cup dose on Sunday morning, then it was out to > find some more. I can always walk to a cafe or bakery on my street, or go to > the corner shop to buy some; but then it's expensive. If I want to get it at > a decent price, it means an expedition. But now my stock is replenished, and > ought to last me until the first week of next month. > > Bill > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Disaster averted. Well done lad. Kate

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Re: [trinity-users] Re: TOTALLY off-topic - got a puzzle meets dinosaurs
by Kate Draven 19 Jun '18

19 Jun '18

> On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Kate Draven wrote: > > > Bill, > > > > I know EXACTLY how you feel. I have to work with crackmonkey clients. Both > > itblows and snapple. They keep saying how there's SO much more software for > > them and yet none of it is useful. Just games. Useless file managers (all > > hail Konqueror, which is aptly named) and the CLI (via konsole). > > I have been using a Windows 10 Pro laptop to avoid potential hassles > with the college system and have gotten some modest acquaintance with > it; it's also fun to tool around with a different OS. > > the impression I get is one is better able to use features of > some brand-name printers. this may be useful depending on one's needs. > I haven't taken much advantage of it. > > I find the privacy settings pretty obscure and I am bedevilled by the > automatic upgrades; I find the lack of control abominable -- 'my' PC > my butt! I have been able to block 'features updates' with some > regedit magic. > > > I do like to run different distros but I only use one for work. Currently Ark > > Linux 2008 and Ali's BigDaddy. I'm hoping to retire Ark for BigDaddy or > > Slackware if and when TDE makes it there. I hope to gain enough skill to do > > it meself. > > never heard of 'BigDaddy' -- fitting for the day! unlike you, I guess > I'm kind of monogamous when it comes to Linux. don't do much with the > 'desktop' anyway except launch applications. > > f. > > -- > Felmon Davis > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- When you said "My" PC, I immediately thought of this old gem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPejYdBM11I Enjoy. As for win10, I expect you have more skills than the average user. So it's to be expected that you would fair better than the average bear. Just think about the poor common user. The abuse they are put through but, like an abuse victim, they fear leaving what they are familiar with. (Kate hops up on her soapbox and shakes a fist) But we must bring them into the light of FOSS freedom, even if it's kicking and screaming. GN to all, (Kate hops off on her soapbox and disappears into the mysterious mist) Kate

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