tde-users June 2019

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] About a Kernel
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

> On 06/13/2019 02:56 AM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > HI > >=20 > > I would like everyone's opinion on this. > >=20 > > I'm trying figure out the benefits of either staying with the LTS kerne= > l or=20 > > with the lastest kernel. The machines are every day use and stability i= > s=20 > > important.=20 > >=20 > > Am I tossing away any benefits, of the latest kernel, if I use the 4.8x= > /9x=20 > > kernel. Or do the benefits of the 5.1x kernel out weigh any instability= > ?=20 > >=20 > > I'd like all schools of thought. > >=20 > > Thanks in advance, > >=20 > > Kate > > Kate, > > Unless you have super-new bleeding-edge hardware that needs a new featu= > re > added in 5.1 that is not available in previous versions -- then 5.1 provi= > des > absolutely no benefit. Any tweak that 5.1 provided to help with Spectre > performance mitigation, etc.. will likely be backported and in a LTS kern= > el. > > I have Arch (that always runs the current upstream version of the kerne= > l, > 5.1.9 currently), and Arch also provides an LTS kernel using 4.19. I have= > a > SuSE leap 42.3 install running the 4.4 kernel, SuSE leap 15.0/15.1 instal= > ls > with the 4.12 version, I have a Pi running Debian/jessie with the 4.9 ARM > kernel, and from a general computing/feature/functionality standpoint, it > makes no difference. > > Now if you have bleeding-edge hardware that is only supported in the la= > test > greatest kernel -- then yes, there is a difference, otherwise you won't k= > now > the difference. > > HTH > > --=20 > David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks David, This is my thinking as well. I have no real bleeding edge tech, I tend to stay away from it. Just wanted to challenge me decision , in case I was wrong. Kate

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sorry, on t-bird know nothing about running current version on imap
by Gene Heskett 17 Jun '19

17 Jun '19

First, I haven't figured out how to get t-bird to quote, or even to reply to a list posting, so this is all by had, I can't even get copy/paste to work. Dr Klepp asked which system: This is the same old asus box, in the house that ran wheezy for years, but now has an uptodate stretch amd64 install. At least I think its uptodate, they've made it almost impossible to run synaptic now, I ran, late yesterday about 3 full cycles of memtest, no errors. The main problems withkmail seem to be related to index files getting out of whack and I have restored it by stopping kmail, deleting the index files for the folder thats crashing, and restarting kmail --sync. Leave it alone for an hour or so and it will rebuild the index files again. But its in trouble again if I delete or move a file to the spam folder. And running it from a shell, to get that debugging output, when did kmail become dependent on N-M, as pasted from tht shell: ene@coyote:~$ kmail --sync [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [TDE NM Backend ERROR] [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1687] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files kmail: WARNING: readFolderIds(): Found serial number zero at index 38 in folder /home/gene/Mail/.briarpatch.index.ids ASSERT: "msn != 0" in /build/buildd/tdepim-trinity-14.0.6/kmail/kmmsgdict.cpp (468) kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is zero in folder coco kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is zero in folder coco gene@coyote:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15648 kmail: kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15649 kmail: *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... Thats one session of kmail, lasted maybe 10 seconds before I clicked on something and crashed it again. As you can see, its fussing about the coco list folder, which is the parent of around 17 subfolders named ack the year of each ones messages. Starting year is 2002, goes on to 2018 with the parent folder now containing the 2019 messages. If kmail survives the year, those will get moved to a 2019 folder. If it survives, its being a pita and I am just now learning how to use both t-bird and imap. Do you have any ideas? I'm all ears. Thanks Nik.

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RPi + TDE + 7i90HD
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

Hi Gene! (This is not directly a TDE question, so it might be of no interest to a lot of readers, but anyway ...) If I recall correctly, you have mentioned somewhere that you have a RPi + TDE + 7i90HD running. Yesterday a 7i960HD ended up on my desk. Now I want to build a new CNC with RPi + TDE + 7i90HD, but I am stuck at how to flash the correct firmware to the card. I understand that I need mesaflash to flash 7i90_spi_svst4_8.bit (http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/hm2_rpspi.9.html) from a pc via what? Centronics cable? Do you have a link to the needed cables? And maybe a working linuxcnc configuration? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: Re: [trinity-users] About a Kernel
by BorgLabs - Kate Draven 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

> On Thursday 13 June 2019 03:04:44 am Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 13 Jun 03:56:13 -0400 > > > > BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit: > > > HI > > > > > > I would like everyone's opinion on this. > > > > > > I'm trying figure out the benefits of either staying with the LTS kernel > > > or with the lastest kernel. The machines are every day use and stability > > > is important. > > > > > > Am I tossing away any benefits, of the latest kernel, if I use the > > > 4.8x/9x kernel. Or do the benefits of the 5.1x kernel out weigh any > > > instability? > > > > > > I'd like all schools of thought. > > > > Just my 2=A2: If you are not running into any issue with the old/stable > > kernel, why change? Is somthing in 5.XX, that you miss now? You might get > > bitten by something like the thinkpad_acpi-spaming-dmesg-issue as happened > > to me. Is the 5.XX packaged with your distribution? If not, then I would > > not do it (well, I maybe would on my testmachine, but not on something > > that's not in my instant reach). > > > > Nik > > I agree with Nik, unless there is some burning reason I need the latest and= > =20 > greatest (5.x), then for anything resembling 'production' use, I stick with= > a=20 > proven LTS. I consider whatever I run my email on as 'production' use, as = > it=20 > has all my business correspondence on it... > > On the other hand, if you can legitimately lose everything and have the tim= > e=20 > to restore backups, then it is fun to be running the latest and greatest... > > Best Kate, > Michael > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you Michael, The logic is sound. Again something I've leaned toward but I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. Again, the beauty of the community, Kate

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My own site can't be accessed
by Thierry de Coulon 13 Jun '19

13 Jun '19

Hello all, It's not a Trinity problem (although it happens in kmail), but as I know there are some experienced people on this list, maybe someone can give me a hint. Since yesterday I can't connect kmail to my main mail server (the server of my own website). I can't send either, I can't connect to the website, I can't connect to it's cpanel, I can't ftp either. I *can* connect to the internet, I get mail from another website, it's really only "my" website. I use spamdrain as spamfilter and spamdrain can access my mail. So does gmail. My handphone can read my mail over data from the very same pop3 server. The provider says from his point of vue everything is working. I've reset the modem and the router. It's not my machine as every machine on my local network has the problem. What, on my local network, could block access to only my website (the provider's site is accessible)? Firewall is activated but nothing has been changed yesterday. The fact that only *one* site is having problem makes me think the problem is at the hosting site, but... I'm really puzzled. Thierry

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CDE window decorations missing?
by John P. Willis 12 Jun '19

12 Jun '19

Hello all, The CDE window decorations appear to be missing after upgrading from Debian Jessie to Debian Stretch and also upgrading TDE (now on R14.0.6). Have they been removed from TDE, or is there something I can do to get them back? My /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity-desktop.list: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian stretch main deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian stretch main deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi… stretch main deb-src http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi… stretch main Thanks much! John Willis

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mails spams and kmail
by andre_debian＠numericable.fr 06 Jun '19

06 Jun '19

Hello, As many, I receive many spams. Kmail has a 2 filters : "Filter configuration" and "pop filter configuration" Which is the difference ? For some mails, I want to delete them. This option does'nt seem possible, only to put them in the trash or another folder, and deleting them after manually. So, is it possible to delete these mails without to put them before in the trash ? Thanks, regards, André

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kmail filter problem
by Gene Heskett 03 Jun '19

03 Jun '19

Greetings folks; I have had a loooong list of all caps strings at the top of my filter list for years. But recently the filter has been changed to apparently be caseless. But I've had to pick quite a few messages back out of the spam folder and put them where they should go by hand. Then one of those lists is in the runup to a new release, and the subject line has included the word planning which now is firing on the ANNI rule so it get moved to thespam folder. As I've played with the filter rules trying to fix this without knowing it had become case insensitive, I've been highlighting the message and hitting ctl+j, which is supposed to apply the filters again, but the messages so treated to the ctl+j are now being deleted! So I've apparently lost forever, around 10 messages from a very important to me, list before I started the filter log viewer to see what was going on. Can you please put back the case sensitivity? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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fonts super tiny in gtk apps
by Matt `da Wolf 02 Jun '19

02 Jun '19

I've checked all the font settings I can tihnk of. Everything is set to at least 28 or 32 as I am on a 4k screen. Everything works as expected in other desktop environments. This occurs on CentOS and Ubuntu, and I am at a loss to explain it. -- Regards, Matt `da Wolf ============= ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL??!! GO REDSKINS!!! ADOPT A WOLF! SAVE THE WOLVES! VISIT WOLF PARK!

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New matching widescreen kdm & ksplash themes "KDEglass" (or "TDEglass")
by David C. Rankin 01 Jun '19

01 Jun '19

To all those who say new KDE3/TDE content is dead... I says "Bah-Humbug!" Here is a matched set of kdm / ksplash widescreen themes. (or tdm / tsplash, I can't keep up...) The kspash theme requires the moodin ksplash engine which is available by default. KDEglass widescreen kdm theme https://www.deviantart.com/drankinatty/art/Kdeglass-Kdm-1-0-799928564 KDEglass widescreen ksplash (moodin engine) https://www.deviantart.com/drankinatty/art/Kdeglass-Ksplash-Moodin-engine-7… When you download, they are damn .zip files because deviantart will not allow you to save as .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 (sheeze you think by now they would have grown up) So, download to a folder, switch to the folder and: unzip kdeglass_moodin.zip tar -cjf kdeglass_moodin.tar.bz2 kdeglass_moodin and unzip kdeglass_kdm-1.0.zip tar -cjf kdeglass_kdm-1.0.tar.bz2 kdeglass_kdm Then both can be added through kde control center, Appearance->ksplash "Add" and the same for kdmtheme. You can also install manually. Enjoy. Let me know if something doesn't work, and I'll tweak it. They are working fine here. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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