tde-users November 2021

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01 Dec '21

Talk about hidden! Whats the best method to get it into my $PATH? bash alias, or softlink to /usr/bin/kmail? Cheers, gene

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Re: can't install trinity, synaptic says packages are broken
by Mike Bird 01 Dec '21

01 Dec '21

On Tue November 30 2021 02:46:14 Gene Heskett wrote: > <snipped> Hi Gene, Please keep replies on list so they're available for others to see and learn from or to correct my mistakes. I'm moving this back on list but privacy rules prevent me from quoting to the list what you sent me off list. Bullseye is a great choice here and now. You have told us that you have used "sudo -E ..." although you haven't told us why you used "-E". What "-E" does is run as root but on your own home folder, not root's. This can easily leave stuff in your home folder which is owned by root and cannot be handled by your regular user account and that can cause all kinds of breakage. You might be able to fix it with something like "chown -R ..." and "chgrp -R ..." but that might make things worse. You have told us that you have gdm3, lightdm, and tdm-trinity on this new install and you have also had kde installed but it is mostly removed now. That ought to work but it is not really a good idea. Think about what you need and only install what you need. Installing hundreds of unneeded packages creates a lot more security vulnerabilities than allowing a root login with a 16-character random password. You can always block ssh root logins without blocking console root logins because if the CIA is sitting at your physical keyboard you're pwned already mate. You really have two choices when installing Debian: a canned install or an expert install. If you choose a canned install you're not TTBOMK going to get RAID10. If you choose expert install you need to know what you're doing. Over the years I've used HW RAID1, HW RAID5, SW RAID1, and SW RAID5 but IIRC I've never used RAID10 and today IMNSHO LVM is much better. But again you have to know what you're doing and why. Whether you use RAID10 or LVM or mercury delay lines you're going to have options in the Debian installer to format each FILESYSTEM. You don't need to spend ten hours zeroing PARTITIONS. So my advice to you is make a plan, do everything in the simplest and most standard way possible except where you need something different, and document exactly what you plan, what you do, and what happens. We can't help you much if you spend a few hours knitting semi-random stitches and then want us to help you turn it into a sweater. One of the key decisions you will make will be systemd vs sysvinit. I use sysvinit. If in doubt you should use systemd because it is the canned standard solution and you don't want to deviate from that without good reason. Just like you don't want to use "sudo -E" without good reason. Good luck Gene, --Mike

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trinity doesn't work
by Gene Heskett 01 Dec '21

01 Dec '21

no, it works fine with no reported errors. And I just found kmail-1.9, hidden away in /opt, and it sees all my old mail! So, rescue all my old scripts and see if I can get them started. Then I'll have a real email agent again. If they will run :-/ Cheers Mike, Gene

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trinity doesn't work
by Gene Heskett 30 Nov '21

30 Nov '21

>Does TDE allow "sudo bash" from konsole? If not what happens? Apparently the same as sudo -i. No errors seen. Thanks Mike, Gene.

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trinity doesn't wok
by Gene Heskett 30 Nov '21

30 Nov '21

>Please keep replies on list so they're available for others to see and >learn from or to correct my mistakes. I'm moving this back on list but >privacy rules prevent me from quoting to the list what you sent me off >list. >Sorry, but webmail seems to be allergic to mailing lists. >>You have told us that you have used "sudo -E ..." although you haven't >>told us why you used "-E". What "-E" does is run as root but on your >>own home folder, not root's. This can easily leave stuff in your home >>folder which is owned by root and cannot be handled by your regular >>user account and that can cause all kinds of breakage. You might be >>able to fix it with something like "chown -R ..." and "chgrp -R ..." >>but that might make things worse. >I'm well aware of that, but since wheezy to now, it was required because root had no >permissions to use the users xwindows. So if I wanted to run synaptic, I had to use the -E. >There was no other choice till now. If I don't need it now, and apparently I don't, the >biggest pain in the ass ever has finally been fixed after at least 4 major debian updates >but now I'll have to learn to "sudo chown -R gene:gene /absolute/path" else I change >root's account with a * in place of the /absolute/path. Based on you statement, I just went >to a buster install and typed "sudo synaptic", and it worked on an xfce4 system, so that >was silently fixed, but I had to use -E on wheezy,jessie,and stretch. >And maybe I just found another oddity. The /root directory is empty. I thought it would >have at least a copy of skel in it. Is that a product of using a no root login but sudo style? When I was able to get to a terminal, an ls -la showed around a dozen .something files, so its not quite empty. So, why do I lose sudo when I use tdm-trinity? Or lightdm? Thanks Gene

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Kmail trinity
by ajh-valmer 30 Nov '21

30 Nov '21

Hello, Why kmail-trinity does'nt accept more than 5 emails to be sended ? I receive a message "not sure that your emails will be received, accept or not accept". Thank you, cheers, André

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Re: can't install trinity, synaptic says packages are broken
by Gene Heskett 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

So do I normally, using fetchmail to keep an imap server (dovecot) at my ISP empty. And I have that part workiing, but it will not install anything from R14 despite updating the keyring. Synaptic turns the doit button red and proclaims I have held, broken packages, but refuses to ID them. So just to get a gui, i've quite a bit of xfce4 installed but can't find anything that will assign multiple workspaces, so I'm stuck with only one shell at a time to tyry and see whats going on. My 7 gigs of old mail is because there are several lists I've never expired, so of it going back to 2002. Even getting xfce's default of 4 workspaces would be a huge help. And I'd be double blessed if I could install tde, the whole maryann. trying to run synaptic gets me this gets me a msgs that says use the broken filter to locate 3 broken packages, but theres no such "filter". clearing that and clicking on the fix-broken meno item gets me this: E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if /usr/bin/test -w /var/lib/command-not-found/ -a -e /usr/lib/cnf-update-db; then /usr/lib/cnf-update-db > /dev/null; fi' E: Sub-process returned an error code searching locate doesn't find cnf-update-db, but an "ls -l /usr/lib" shows: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Jan 6 2021 cnf-update-db -> ../share/command-not-found/cnf-update-db drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 29 06:07 colobot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 Jan 6 2021 command-not-found -> ../share/command-not-found/command-not-found And that leaves me bum-fuzzled. I could do another, 4th install but that is around an 8 hour job just to clear the raid10's. I did find thebroken filter finally: fig2dev mono-runtime-sgen python-is-python2 I'll see if they can be renoved. took some doing, then desktop-base had to be removed and desktop-trinity added, but now its updateing 263 trinity pkgs, I'll send this, quite FF and reboot to see if I'm making progress. In the meantime, Thanks hunter On Mon, 29 Nov, 2021 at 3:04 PM, Hunter Ellett via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote: To: tde users Cc: hunter2k1(a)disroot.org On November 29, 2021 1:11:24 PM CST, Gene Heskett <gheskett(a)shentel.net<mailto:gheskett@shentel.net>> wrote: >Some of kde did install but the new kmail 5something doesn't see 7 gigs of old mail, nor will it create ANYTHING not even a new folder. > > >So this is from ff doing webmail, which I would rather use for target practice. > > >Does anyone have a fix for either problem? Hi Gene, Are you talking about tde or kde? Im assuming tde by the title and the context of your message but then you say "kmail 5something". Are you using Plasma Kmail on TDE? Clearing this up will help us diagnose the problem. Either way, 7 GB of mail is a lot. Im guessing this is POP which I know nothing about, for I use IMAP.

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can't install trinity, synaptic says packages are broken
by Gene Heskett 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

Some of kde did install but the new kmail 5something doesn't see 7 gigs of old mail, nor will it create ANYTHING not even a new folder. So this is from ff doing webmail, which I would rather use for target practice. Does anyone have a fix for either problem? Thanks all. Gene

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Higher resolution versions of wallpapers
by Hunter Ellett 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

Out of curiosity, does anyone know the source of some of the wallpapers used in Trinity? Some of them are in 4:3 such as Fulmine, Triple Gears, etc. and they're quite low quality on newer 1080p+ monitors. I really like these and wonder if there's higher resolution versions anywhere that aren't stretched.

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29 Nov '21

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