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[TW] sessions won't start from TDM
by Felix Miata 24 Sep '24

24 Sep '24

# tail of journal Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting User Login Management... Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd-logind[2198]: Failed to fully start up daemon: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Start request repeated too quickly. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: dbus.socket: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to listen on D-Bus System Message Bus Socket. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting Load Kernel Module drm... Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: modprobe(a)drm.service: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Finished Load Kernel Module drm. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Start request repeated too quickly. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: systemd-logind.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Failed to start User Login Management. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1166 (tdecryptocardwa) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 1175 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Found left-over process 2090 (dcopserver) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: display-manager.service: This usually indicates unclean termination of a previous run, or service implementation deficiencies. Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Starting X Display Manager... Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: /etc/vconsole.conf available Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: KEYMAP: us Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: Command: localectl set-keymap us Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2208]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping Sep 23 23:27:51 localectl[2215]: Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:27:51 display-manager[2204]: Starting service tdm Sep 23 23:27:51 systemd[1]: Started X Display Manager. Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) Sep 23 23:28:13 tdm[2232]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: Finished Cleanup of Temporary Directories. Sep 23 23:29:32 systemd[1]: run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dclean.service.mount: Deactivated successfully. Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_systemd(xdm:session): Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by root(uid=0) Sep 23 23:30:13 tdm[2346]: pam_unix(xdm:session): session closed for user root # rpm -qa | grep pam | sort pam-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 pam-config-2.11+git.20240911-1.1.x86_64 pam-extra-1.6.1-4.1.x86_64 pam-manpages-1.6.1-4.1.noarch pam_pwquality-1.4.5-2.3.x86_64 yast2-pam-5.0.0-1.4.noarch # TDM works fine, except if I want to start a login session from it. This is a freshly resurrected SSD in a PC whose motherboard died in August two years ago. I stumbled onto a free motherboard replacement suited to the RAM, CPU, cooler, etc. and got it going today. I managed to upgrade TW from 20220807 to 20240922 without any significant obstacles, until trying to login to any of Plasma, TDE, or IceWM from TDM. Failsafe does start a session with an Xterm, from which starttde opens a normally functioning TDE desktop. Any ideas or suggestions whether this could be a TW problem or a TDM problem, or how to fix it? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Pointers on pointers?
by dep 23 Sep '24

23 Sep '24

Greets, everybody . . . The Debian install seems to be working just fine but for a couple littlish hiccups: It didn't fix the occasional weirdness where my keyboard doesn't recognize some keys and seems endlessly stuck with others, which is fixed, for days, by a reboot. Changing keyboards doesn't help. For more than a decade, there has been no problem with a link from a directory on the second hard drive to my /home directory. Now it won't and instead throws an error saying it's trying to overwrite itself. All this means is that I have to kind of set it up every time and can't go directly to it with the file manager. Partition is mounted at /media/sdb1 and I have the permissions needed. Weird. Kmail crashes fairly frequently, reason unknown. Maybe Debian has a mail users setting. Haven't looked, and I can send and receive okay. The crash reporter, best I can tell, has never served any useful purpose. But that's not what I'm here to ask about. I'm *still* trying to find where the mouse pointers found in the Mouse > Cursor themes in KControl are located on the drive. If I knew what they are called I could do a locate, but I don't. I hope to take a pre-existing set, one that I don't and won't ever use, and experiment a little bit with it. In the happy long-ago days of OS/2, there was an actual OS/2 application -- $35, and I bet I'm the only one who bought a copy -- that not only let you design your own pointers easily, but let you put the hot pixel wherever you wanted and, more important and what I'd ideally like to achieve, let you color them such that wherever you were on the screen, the pointer would be the opposite of the color beneath it. On the fly. Instantly. Always. Totally visible. I do not know if X even allows anything like this, but it's worth wasting a day over. Even if that isn't possible, I'd like to pull some of them up in the icon editor and change their colors so that they are really, really visible. But I can't break them because I can't find where they live! Anyone know? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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[SOLVED] Pointer on pointers
by dep 21 Sep '24

21 Sep '24

On a Debian install, anyway, they're in /usr/share/icons, in /[directory name]/cursors. Now trying to figure out how to make the I-beam cursor in LibreOffice (or anything else; same problem in KWord, Abiword, and Calligra) much bolder. It's damn near invible and has been a problem for years. LibreOffice says to change it in Windows accessibility. I hope they step barefoot on a Lego left three steps up on the stairs. It is said there is some gtk setting that might fix it, but no one seems to know where or how. If it's hard coded, move that Lego to the ninth step. I think there used to be a KDE or TDE compatability package for LibreOffice, but if memory serves it was dropped years ago, and I don't know if it let TDE or Qt or something override the cursors. dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Darkness :) Remaster of devuan testing + TDE + dark theme for AMD64
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 19 Sep '24

19 Sep '24

Hi all! I just uploaded my last devuan testing + TDE 14.2 remaster - this time with a dark theme (including kate) - and it finally got a name (darkness). I would be interested if you run into issues with it. Thread on devuan: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6850 ISO: https://samhain.at/devuan_tde/darkness-20240918.iso SHA256: https://samhain.at/devuan_tde/darkness-20240918.iso.sh256 SHA256: 97c6c6fbf3d49bfc9b9231f586a1143da8761cfe9657dcb72676793c3b693856 Background is done by myself, so if anybody wants to include it in TDE (or highres versions of my deviantart.com/zwieblum gallery) just drop me a note. Enjoy :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Outlook woes
by Thierry de Coulon 15 Sep '24

15 Sep '24

I don't like Outlook, unfortunately that's what my school uses. For now I use Prospect Mail to acces this mail (and it does work correctly, although the interface is terrible - seems to be a clone of Outlook's). My global problem is that when they send a mail to my outlook address, I don't know it. I had found a nice way to live with it, by redirecting (forwarding) the mail from Outlook to kmail (I still have to use Prospect Mail to send an answer because since they ativated two factor authentication Outlook's smtp refuses me). Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, they have blocked redirection. Getting mail from Outlook from kmail fails (I guess because of two factor authentication). I have not been able to imagine a way to make Prospect Mail tell me that I received mail (and anyway it's not running all the time). I wanted to try Mailspring, but it wants to store my credentials in a keyring, and although I have both gnome-keyring and libsecret installed (courtesy of MX-Linux I suppose), Mailspring does not find them (and mailspring --password-store= does not work, either with libsecret, gnome-keyring or tdewalletmanager-trinity). So, as several of you recently praised the help offered by this mailing list, maybe I am in luck and one of you has some advice to offer on the subject? Would it be possible to start Prospect mail (cron job?) and get some information about new incomming mails? Thierry

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Where are cursors stored?
by dep 15 Sep '24

15 Sep '24

I have for years used a red mouse pointer in TDE, and for some reason I can't find where I put them, so I guess I'll raid s backup. But if I can, I'd like to know ahead of time where TDE stores its installed mouse cursors. Anybody know? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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And on Friday the 13th, too!
by dep 14 Sep '24

14 Sep '24

Happy and stunned to say that the de-Ubuntu-ization has been going better than I had any right to expect. The whole setting up of "sudo" was a pain -- not stuff you're likely to remember when you do it once every many years -- and some various flaky stuff. Otoh, the easiest nvidia driver install in history, so I'll take it. Many, many things I expected to be hell to reconfigure . . . made it through the switch. My background is xplanet, as always, with a high-res moon picture that I see has a timestamp of Dec. 26, 1998 -- I seem to be set in my ways. One surprise is that may be a bug. In the reduced version of the preview TDE, KMenu does not seem to be installed by default. I do not know whether that was intentional -- can't imagine it would be -- but unless one knows to go to the panel applets and find and put it on Kicker, there's no application menu. Now, a question: Where is the Basket note pads application for TDE? Has its name changed? It is one of those applications out with which I cannot do. (Clear back to DOS, when I was addicted to InfoSelect -- indeed, many of the notes there were transferred from InfoSelect to something else inferior on Linux before Basket came along.) Is there a version, for TDE, someplace? Related, what's a good repository browser? I've used Synaptic for the 20 years I used Kubuntu, and, well, Ubuntu. Anybody have recommendations? Thanks! -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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Stupid key question
by dep 13 Sep '24

13 Sep '24

So, before trying the correct method (which is strangely made difficult by my maching now refusing to boot from USB for no reason I can find), I thought I would try to switch to Debian via a strange recipe that probably won't work: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/344408/migrate-from-ubuntu-to-debi… Problem is the Debian pubkey, which does not exist on my machine. The keyring stuff in the recipe does not, best I can tell, resemble current reality. Of course, without it the whole apt-get business explodes in a cloud of unsignedness. Anybody know where I can get the Debian pubkey? dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

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how to find & format a lost SSD?
by William Morder 10 Sep '24

10 Sep '24

My internal 2 tb SSD has suddenly become "locked"; even though I myself didn't lock it. The good people at Mc$haft started nagging me about enabling UEFI partitioning, but I had managed to get round that by using grub instead. Now, however, that 2 tb SSD will not mount at all as a separate drive. When I try to boot from a Devuan installation USB, that works just fine, as usual ... *unless* that 2 tb USB is present in the system. I get a window asking for a password to unlock it. I never set a password for this SSD, nor an admin password (for the boot process) until the system started asking me to set one. I did manage to back up all the data on that SSD before this happened, but now I can only boot the system from a 250 gb USB, where I have installed my Devuan system, with root, swap and home partitions, and it runs nearly perfectly, just like always ... or usually always, until crap like this happens. This SSD I bought specially to put in the laptop in order to replace the factory-installed 128 gb SSD. The original factory SSD will only boot into Mc$haft's registration process. This newer SSD, where for the past couple years I have had my system installed, been running fine, will not boot at all. When it is present at boot, I cannot boot an installation USB or disc, cannot boot a repair disc, cannot even boot my home partition (the one now installed on the USB) if that 2 tb USB is present. I tried a sort of dangerous hardware hack, which was to open up the laptop, and hotplug the 2 tb SSD, just to see if the system would recognize it. So here is (are) my question(s): Can I get the system to recognize this 2 tb SSD. It is plugged in, but doesn't appear? Do I need to buy some sort of gadget (an enclosure or something?) so that I can plug in the SSD as if it were a USB drive? Can I somehow reformat this 2 tb SSD without buying more stuff? Any help will be appreciated! Bill

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Regarding setting wallpapers on multiple virtual desktops
by riru 09 Sep '24

09 Sep '24

Hello, I've been trying to set different slideshow wallpapers with hue shift blending on my virtual desktops (I currently have 4). But, for some reason, when switching to the first virtual desktop, I notice a bit of lag before Trinity switches to it. I don't know how are wallpapers managed internally on Trinity but that seems like it's trying to reload the wallpaper again or something? By the way, I'm new to the this mailing list, actually I've never written to one before, if I've missed any kind of netiquette or something like that please let me know. Cheers.

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