tde-users January 2025

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28 participants
19 discussions

by dep

Greets, everybody . . . For the last few weeks, if I click on a link in a message in KMail, instead of the link opening in Netscape like always it produces the attached, and just sits there. It can be circumvented by copying the link and pasting it in Firefox -- Netscape -- but in that I'm pretty sure what's shown in the picture isn't the designed behavior it is worth reporting. Running TDE testing atop Debian Trixie. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

1 day, 9 hours

TDE unstable with openSUSE 15.6 on old laptop

by Gianluca Interlandi

Dear TDE list, I installed openSUSE 15.6 on an old DELL Inspiron 1520. I decided to give it some more life with a Crucial MX500 2 TB SSD. The installation went fine except that I had to use "acpi=off" to boot the installation media, but I was able to remove that kernel option after the installation. LXDE runs fine. However, TDE is unstable and already during the setup wizard the screen goes blank after a few second, then comes back, goes blank again and after a few times X crashes and goes back to the login screen. With LXDE, I have a similar issue if I use a openGL application that displays atoms as spheres (other representations work fine). In that situation, the screen also flashes a few times and the application that I use crashes, but the LXDE session survives. This makes me think that it is probably related to the video card not beeing correctly supported by newer kernels. The video card is: Mesa Intel 965GM. I wonder whether anybody has any idea how to troubleshoot this, especially as everything else seems to work fine. I use this laptop to teach python and pygame to my middle school son. So LXDE will be fine for that. What I have done in the past if I'm not happy with the hardware I installed linux on, I purchase something newer on e-bay and move the hard disk to the newer system (at least Intel CPU to Intel CPU should work fine). If anybody has any experience/recommendation for an older laptop (that I could find on e-bay or similar) with an integrated Intel GPU where trinity runs in a stable manner possibly in conjunction with openSUSE 15.6, please let me know. It needs to have a SATA connection for a 2.5" SSD and it should be able to boot with BIOS or legacy BIOS as the partitions on the hard disk were created with a DOS label (not UEFI). Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/research/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

2 days, 23 hours

Clock applet does not obey Time & Dates settings

by J Leslie Turriff

Even though I have tried to customize my Time & Dates settings (both via Trinity Control Center => Regional & Accesibility => Country/Region & Language => Time & Dates, and Clock => Date & Time Format), my settings do not appear in the Clock applet's panel gadget, nor in the Calendar that pops up when the Clock gadget is clicked. I have attached a screen shot of the pertinent screen areas. Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.6 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.3 tde-config: 1.0

4 days, 6 hours

Did the name "Trinity" have anything to do with the Christian "holy trinity"?

by nabrious＠icloud.com

I understand that the name was picked due to the desktop being a fork of KDE 3, but even on the website -> https://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php: "The name Trinity was chosen partly because the word means "three" and TDE was a continuation of KDE 3. TDE now is its own computer desktop environment project." It says that the name was picked only *partly* due to the word meaning three, so what was the other reason/part? Is it the Christian trinity? Also the reason I think that the desktop was named after the Christian trinity is the fact it has a first-party, pre-installed Bible study app called Bible Time "bibletime" Just really curious, hopefully someone has the full answer (preferably the founder himself lol).

6 days, 16 hours

AOL chat server replica in the wild?

by Andrew Randrianasulu

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=taDOa2zIhlo "Open-source instant messaging server that makes classic AIM and ICQ clients work again." in Go .... https://github.com/mk6i/retro-aim-server

1 week, 4 days

Server for Arch Linux packages down

by John P. Willis

See following output: :: Synchronizing package databases... core 116.1 KiB 726 KiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100% extra 7.5 MiB 11.3 MiB/s 00:01 [######################] 100% multilib 130.8 KiB 1721 KiB/s 00:00 [######################] 100% trinity.db failed to download error: failed retrieving file 'trinity.db' from mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org : Connection timed out after 10002 milliseconds error: failed to synchronize all databases (download library error) -> error refreshing databases - exit status 1

2 weeks

Persistent KMail issue

by dep

Greets, everybody . . . I've hesitated to bring this up because I'm doing something that I think is not supported by anyone involved. But maybe I'm just missing something simple, so I thought I'd ask. I beg your forbearance, because the explanation is long. I use ProtonMail. PrnotMail offers an application-filter thing called ProtonBridge; without it one is stuck with Proton's webmail, which is a pain for many reasons, not least that it's impossible to reply to a message at the bottom. ProtonBridge is a fairly large thing that does the encryption/decryption of outgong/incoming messages respectively. Instead of having an actual address for the mail server, Bridge requires we use 127.0.0.1. and port 1143 for incoming and 1025 for outgoing. Fine so far. The Bridge was released about five years ago. I set it up and it worked just fine, allowing me to keep an email archive here on the local machine, as well as otherwise use KMail as I have for lo, these many years. Then a couple years ago things began to go pearshaped from time to time. I would receive pop-up KMail errors that KMail could not mark the message as read, couldn't write to the server. As I have mentioned before, it began to get double listings for incoming messages, the first blank. Making it maddening is that there's no consistency to it. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't, in both cases. I keep my software up to date, including TDE and ProtonBridge. I cannot point to the exact time it began. At about the same time, everytime I opened KMail I couldn't do anything until it downloaded every message I had receiced since forever. I normally read and respond to messages, then move them to the appropriate ones among a miltitude of maildir directories I keep here, and for the longest time that was the end of it, but there was a change that caused those messages to be downloaded anew the next time I started KMail. In that only Thunderbird is supported in Linux by ProtonBridge, I just lived with it. Then, relatively recently, KMail began to crash. I've filed the occasional KMail crash report -- btw, the crash report server needs to renew its certificate. The crashes typically happen when KMail is running minimized, which I customarily do so I don't have to d/l every email since Genesis every time I use it. I suspect it's some configuration thing with KMail that I have wrong -- not that much to configure with the Bridge -- possibly a permissions issue or something. What makes it all the more maddening is that it works most of the time. When a few days ago KMail threw the error that it couldn't write to te server, I sent the report to Proton. As usual, they replied promptly. As usual, the reply wasn't of much help, to wit: "Currently, we are testing Bridge on Outlook, Apple Mail, and Thunderbird. Other clients should also be compatible but we cannot guarantee that all of the features will work properly, as this largely depends on the implementation of the IMAP and SMTP protocols in that client. "You read about this in detail on the link below: https://proton.me/support/clients-supported-bridge " I'd really like to sort this out, but I do not know enough about mail handling to know even where to begin to look. I renamed my top-level mail directory (~/Mail, created when I was using KDE-1.0 and with messages going back that far) and letting it start anew, but there was no improvement. I shall continue to use ProtonMail and would very much like to continuing to use KMail-Trinity. But I kinda hate this. Anybody know the solution? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

2 weeks, 5 days

To give a sense of how far this goes back . . .

by dep

. . . I just scrolled to the first of the 35,155 messages I have archived in my KDE-Users mail directory and found this: [q] Help with install Date: Sun Oct 18 13:41:33 1998 From: "Julia's Mail" <ourhome(a)globalnet.co.uk> To: KDE general mailing list <kde(a)lists.netcentral.net> Reply to: kde(a)lists.netcentral.net I have loaded RedHat 5.1, upgraded it to 5.2 and installed qt-1.40. When I try to install KDE (kdelib) from the RPM files I get a message that qt >= 1.33 is needed by kdelibs-1.0-7rh51, and qt-egce-10x is needed by kdelibs-1.0-7rh51. Did I miss a step? If you can think of a way to fix this I would be grateful. :) Mark -- Send posts to: kde(a)lists.netcentral.net [/q] So these directories have survived a *lot* of upgrades. -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

3 weeks

Offtopic: kde1 might be not dead

by Andrew Randrianasulu

some week ago interesting post was made to r/linux https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1htnhwq/software_left_in_nostalgial… someone trying to fit kde1 codebase on top of forked qt2 codebase ;) with png support backported from Trinity's qt3 fork ;) So, well, thanks everyone again, long live lightweight desktop!

3 weeks, 1 day

The sound mess, etc.

by dep

Greetings, everybody, and happy 2025 even though the start to the year does not seem promising in many places. Digging through issues one by one here. Am using the desktop more after having gotten a TKL (SSK in IBM parlance) Model M from Unicomp. I have a couple of genuine IBM SSKs, but they have become to valuable to use. The Unicomp reissue is if anything better, and I love it. But I digress. I'm running Debian Trixie and TDE-almost-ready (I don't remember what TDE testing is called, but I'm running the not-bleeding-edge testing version, the middle one). I've discovered that sound doesn't work on my machine. I imagine that this comes down to Pipewire, the Wayland of sound. (No, I do not use Wayland. Playing pioneer in Linux was a hoot 25 years ago; now I just want the damn machine to work.) When setting up a couple of Rspberry Pi5s as television sets last year, I got no sound until I nuked Pipewire entirely, which I haven't done here on the desktop yet. KMix seems in order. I have gone everywhere I could find to set the audio to the built-in audio -- the system seems desperate to give me HDMI audio, but I have no HDMI audio. At the moment, I have no audio of any sort, but at least I have the hardware for non-HDMI audio. pulseaudio -v renders this: I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Successfully gained nice level -11. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 17.0 I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is 5319a42264b14252b3e0bc50dadf9032. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is 4. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1000/pulse. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/dep/.pulse. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib/pulse-17.0+dfsg1/modules. I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. When I check the sound system page in KControl, all seems fine. System restarts uneventfully. Everything seems to work except sound coming from the speakers. I'm out of guesses. Advice? -- dep Pictures: http://www.ipernity.com/doc/depscribe/album Column: https://ofb.biz/author/dep/

3 weeks, 4 days

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