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by William Morder

On Tuesday 23 April 2024 10:30:47 you wrote: > > On one occasion, when I tried to kill dozens of zombie entries marked > > only w, > > What marked these 'w' ? My `ps' man page says there is no such status. > There was 'W' in the 2.6 kernel series, but I assume your system isn't that > archaic. (Or is it?) > Hi Jim! My machine is fairly new, only a couple years old, and I am running Devuan Daedalus, upgraded within the last month. Here are some snips from top. I am only showing lines that relate to zombies or those mysterious processes with the label w. (For security reasons, I prefer not to show everything all at once about my system; such as, e.g., my user name.) Please see attachments. As you can see, I only have one zombie at present -- didn't try to track down what processes are involved -- but at times there have been as many as dozens. They seem to come in dozens or half-dozens, by the way, for reasons unknown to me: above a certain number, they always seem to come in multiples of 6 or 12, like 24, 36, 42. When it gets to be a couple dozen zombies, this irks me, and that's when I want to call in the zombie-killing experts. No, I don't think it's "good" for so many zombies to persist after their parents have quit running, but I also don't notice that my system runs any worse. When I thought that I had identified one of my zombies as one of those mysterious w processes, and tried to kill that, that's when I shut down my session and lost my work; which, obviously, was worse that putting up with zombies. It seems to me that the mysterious w is not any one process, but rather a kind of process that has become a zombie. Otherwise, there could not be, as sometimes happens, half a dozen processes named w. As for the age of my machine or system: the nature of Devuan in spirit is more deliberately set against newfangled shiny toys, and tends to rely on the more reliable stone tools used the hardcore caveman geeks. Bill P.S. Apologies if I sent some duplicate emails. For some reason, my response to Jim, with attachments, did not go through. Please consider this one to be the authorized version ... if it goes through.

13 hours, 18 minutes

Re: network issues - tdenetworkmanager

by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

I just ran into polkit hell + network-manager - like Bill. This is how to get network-manager working for your user, so you do not need to run it as root: Check your permissions - if you get "yes" on all lines, you are good, but then you won't have network-manager issues at all: $ nmcli gen permissions If you don't get "yes on all lines, then create this file: #/etc/polkit-1/rules.d/50-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.rules polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control") return "yes"; }); Now check again - all lines should say "yes": $ nmcli gen permissions Now you can do bad stuff with network connections from all your systms users, but as you most likely are the only system user it should be ok: $ nmtui Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

2 days, 4 hours

Need Help Getting Trinity Desktop Environment Running in Termux Proot-Distro Debian

by ddp619＠icloud.com

Hello everyone, I've been trying to get the Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) up and running in Termux Proot-Distro Debian, but I've hit a roadblock and could use some assistance. I've included the log file below for reference: ``` termux-x11 :1 -xstartup starttde [starttde] Starting starttde. [starttde] This script is /opt/trinity/bin/starttde [starttde] TDE version is R14.1.1 [starttde] TDE base directory is /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEHOME is not set. [starttde] Set TDEHOME to /home/doug/.trinity. [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. [starttde] XDG_DATA_DIRS: /opt/trinity/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share [starttde] TDEDIR: /opt/trinity [starttde] TDEDIRS: [starttde] Starting Trinity... Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory [starttde] Trinity hardware control dbus daemon not started. mkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root [tdebuildsycoca] tdebuildsycoca running... [2024/04/21 09:54:26.947] [dcopserver] DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. [starttde] TDE_FULL_SESSION: true [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 1000 [tdeinit] Shutting down running client. ``` It seems that I'm encountering an issue with connecting to the system message bus and starting the Trinity hardware control dbus daemon. Additionally, there's a problem with setting the ownership of `/tmp/.ICE-unix` to root. I've tried troubleshooting on my own but haven't been able to find a solution. If anyone has experience with running TDE in Termux or has any insights into what might be causing these errors, I would greatly appreciate your help. Thank you in advance!

3 days, 16 hours

tdemid default output

by Thierry de Coulon

Hello all, I happen to have inherited an "old" but stil kicking SoundCanvas SC-88 Pro. So I took out my midisport 2x2 and fired tdemid to see what I could do with it. Works very well as a matter of fact. The only "problem" is that everytime I load a midi file, tdemid defaults to MIDI Through port 0 and I have to change it to midisport. I took a look at the configuration file, but there is nothing there about default output. Maybe it's possible to add some instruction, but where can I find the correct syntax, if any? Thierry

4 days

Alternative E-mail provider (off topic)

by Gianluca Interlandi

Dear TDE list, Sorry, this may be off topic. I am looking for an email provider that is not Google, Yahoo or Apple. Recently, these providers have tightened the ability to forward e-mail as detailed in this article by UW: https://itconnect.uw.edu/tools-services-support/it-systems-infrastructure/e… In particular, I am looking for the following: 1) Ability to access through IMAP 2) Ability to set up automatic forwarding while leaving one copy of a message in the INBOX 3) Possibly free or low cost with enough storage > 1 GB and ability to have attachments >= 25 MB. I have been looking at AOL and GMX. AOL is now owned by Yahoo, so it may have the same issues. GMX is attractive especially since it allows attachments up 250 GB. However, I wonder whether e-mails sent through GMX have to go all the way to Germany and then back to the US (making the process slow)? Or does GMX mail have servers all over the world including the US? Any other recommendations? Also, I would like to use IMAP using Alpine and I read that "Alpine also assumes that the Inbox is located at /var/spool/mail/user_name on the email SMTP server": https://opensource.com/article/21/5/alpine-linux-email I am curious whether today's e-mail providers store their e-mails in a /var/spool/mail/ folder. Thanks! Gianluca ----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/research/ Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

3 weeks

D-Bus and Polkit Galore

by Mike Bird

Here is a discussion by the SUSE Security Team of their review of KDE6. For me it cast a lot of light onto the murky behind- -the-scenes D-Bus and Polkit. If you are a TDE developer or power user you might want to take a look. https://security.opensuse.org/2024/04/02/kde6-dbus-polkit.html

3 weeks

can "lock session" be removed from menu?

by Felix Miata

If so, how? It's too easy to hit accidentally when trying to log out. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

3 weeks, 1 day

pointer size adjust

by Felix Miata

Where in KControl or elsewhere does one go to make pointer and I-bar large enough to notice? In peripherals is only (4) mouse cursor themes, where exist no controls for any sizes. The pointer in TDM is about 4X as large as in TDE sessions, and appropriate for my needs. Is there a separate package to provide pointer controls that isn't required in a base installation? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

3 weeks, 2 days

Re: tdeinit starting twize ...

by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp

For the record - and in case somebody falls into the same trap: I found the culprit: live-coniig handles parts of the boot process when running from a live image. That program is a decade old and has a strange idea on autologon and Xorg. If "autologin" is not explictly disabled, Xorg is started early in the boot process, bypassing sysv. When sysv later starts tdm it thinks X is not running which results in some demons started again which results in utter chaos. So to prevent this disable autologin: LIVE_CONFIG_CMDLINE="live-config.noautologin live-config.debug" Note: If tdm was configurd to autologon, it will still autologon when booted from the iso. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

4 weeks

Multi-monitor layout resetting itself every logon

by bonkmaykr

Howdy, I've got an issue where the layout and mode of my displays resets to the default at every login. This is despite me setting up the monitors in the TDE Control Center, both locally as my user and globally as root, creating an X config using the NVIDIA X Server Settings, and having no such issue previously when I was still using KDE Plasma. I'm using the latest NVIDIA proprietary drivers on EndeavourOS, with a 1920x1080@60hz display on DP-1 and a 3440x1440@144hz display on DP-2. The ultrawide 1440p display is on the right slightly above the smaller one, but Trinity and TDM both repeatedly place them in the opposite arrangement with the smaller monitor as the default, sitting on the top right corner of the larger one. Both displays default to 60hz at login. I've also tried enabling "Automatically apply profile on startup" and creating a profile, but when trying to reload it, X spits out an error "xrandr: cannot find mode 3440x1440". I don't get any such error when logging on, only when trying to load it manually from control center, which makes me think it's not even trying. I have not tested using xrandr manually from the command line. How do I get Trinity to remember my monitor layout correctly? Is this a known issue? \-- [bonkmaykr.xyz][] Proud webmaster of KangWorlds. Sent from Proton Mail mobile [bonkmaykr.xyz]: https://bonkmaykr.xyz

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