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Is Trinity a non-political project?
by psudo＠atomicmail.io 15 Jun '26

15 Jun '26

A lot of GNU/linux software is discriminating primarily against conservatives and people on the political right, this unfortunately includes KDE Plasma: https://lunduke.substack.com/p/kde-attacks-critics-as-sad-people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmMajfj314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QonsAQYME8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00EPajdGrdY A lot of people are looking to migrate away from KDE Plasma because of this along with them pushing a wayland-only session. Trinity is an amazing option that has nearly all the same features Plasma has with a much lighter codebase and also works with Devuan and Xlibre. So it might be a weird question but in the year 2026 I have to ask: Does Trinity accept everyone (users/contributers) regardless of background/politics/race/gender, etc so long as they write quality code and focus on making the project as great as it can be? P.S I don't mind what the politics are of those who work on Trinity, I don't need to know at all.

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deb822 format sources for Resolute
by Felix Miata 03 Jun '26

03 Jun '26

Would someone care to share his/her correctly and fully "modernized" sources file for TDE for Ubuntu Resolute? Google doesn't seem to be able to do it, and the modernize process leaves out the "Signed-By:" line. Neither is this covered on: <https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst…> -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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What is compton-tde?
by William Morder 03 Jun '26

03 Jun '26

Suddenly, just within the past week or two, definitely since I reinstalled my OS, I am seeing this thing called compton-tde running always near the top of top. It doesn't seem to do anything special or new, yet it is new to me, always to be seeing it. I thought, Well, it's been a long time since I really messed up my system, but I will fear no unknown software. So I killed the process, it disappeared, and I cannot detect any change in my system, except that compton-tde no longer appears in top. I did do a search for compton<-without-tde>, but this tells me nothing more. It does something important, one supposes, but we know not what. Bill

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browser woes - RESOLVED -- and tork-trinity
by William Morder 01 Jun '26

01 Jun '26

And thanks to nobody for help on this one ... That's okay, though, as it took a bit of finagling until I got Tor Browser working more or less right. I just don't remember it being so much work, but then I haven't used it for quite a few years. In the end, I went back to the version that's current for my system, although I don't know if that was part of the cure, as I haven't tried using the sid (or unstable experimental version, or whatever it is). I thought it might be something to do with Debian and Devuan not playing well together, but the packages are in the Devuan repositories, so I don't think that was it. Anyway, I am posting my results here, just it case somebody else out there might find it useful, if they are trying to install it. As I mentioned before, for my own system, I had to run the command "firejail torbrowser-launcher"; but that's because I have firejail installed, so I have to do it with all my browsers, as well as a few other programs. If you don't use firejail, then you can ignore that bit. Once I finally got it to launch: when I tried to configure torbrowser to use proxy servers, but it would only accept the http/https configuration, 127.0.0.1:8118, which is to use privoxy. Somewhere, I believe on the Tor Project website, I read that Socks5 is the preferred configuration: 127.0.0.1:9050, and set that to be used by all protocols. But when I tried this, I couldn't connect. Somewhere or other I got the notion to try enabling the built-in bridges in the Tor Browser. I tried 'em all, off and on, the obs4, snowflake and meek, and all seem to work, but takes time, and requires patience. Eventually, using bridges, the Tor Browser connnected, and only then could I use the Socks5 configuration. Since I started doing this, my internet connection also seems much more stable, though this may be a coincidence, or not. This brings me to the point that connects it to TDE, so that this is not completely off-topic. This issue, which concerns tork-trinity, is what started all this bother. I would like to be able to continue to use tork-trinity to manage my proxy connections, as it has many features that I will miss if I try doing it manually. For one thing, I can watch all my internet traffic over proxies in real time. (And since I started using the Tor Browser, I now also see the new connections, bridges, and so on. It may be, because I use the bridges, and there always seems to be a trickle of bits/second, that it keeps my connection alive?) The problem with tork-trinity is that it's a kind of legacy package, I would guess. The KDE3 version was discarded when KDE started on its terrible campaign of transmogrification into an ugly pile of krap, and only Trinity desktop keeps it alive. However, I cannot add the most recent Tor bridges to tork-trinity. It seems that tork-trinity uses a list that is obsolete, and now they are listed in a different form. Is there some way, for the present moment, to copy those Tor bridges, that I get from the Tor Browser, and paste them into tork-trinity? tork-trinity > Settings > Configure TorK > Firewall/Censor Evasion > Evade Censorship When I click the button to use bridges My State or Service Provider Censors the Use of Tor I end up with a lot of useless bridge addresses, and it sometimes interferes a little with my connection, or so it seems. If there is no way to hack it to use the current bridges, then is it possible to modify or upgrade the tork-trinity package, so that it is up-to-date with current usage methods for the Tor bridges? I don't know how much trouble this might cause, and I realize that the developers don't have time for everything. But tork-trinity is so very useful. I feel sure others would agree, if they have used it. If necessary, I can make a feature request, or whatever is appropriate. Bill

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setting up DNS servers - need help
by William Morder 01 Jun '26

01 Jun '26

Hello everybody! Lately I've been having problems connecting to various sites that I have visited and used regularly for more than 20 years. For example, I get blocked from even viewing pages on the Internet Archive (archive.org), and can only find download links by searching the onion version of DDG. Then I can usually download, using wget over Tor, though sometimes I have to wait; sometimes I have to change my useragent from nothing to something, and that helps, but I still get messages that condemn me as another "AI bot" that is "ruining the web for everybody"; although, as far as I can recall, I've been doing it like this for most of those past 20 years. Anyway, a little online research yielded the recommendations that I try entering a useragent in the appropriate place in wget; which I did, and which helps, but only sometimes. Another suggestion was that I ought to try changing my DNS servers. Most pages recommended Google's servers as the default, but I mostly have relied upon OpenDNS, when I have had time to fiddle around with such things, when I can spend enough time online. I have used OpenDNS before, so it's not unfamiliar to me. I reviewed their pages to see what has changed, and updated by settings accordingly. I edited my file (not including my own remarks in brackets) in /etc/resolv.conf like so: nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 #[ipv6 redirect to ipv4] #nameserver ::ffff:d043:dede #nameserver ::ffff:d043:dcdc #nameserver ::ffff:d043:dedc #nameserver ::ffff:d043:dcde #[ipv6] # nameserver 2620:119:35::35 # nameserver 2620:119:53::53 # ipv6 - RFC compliant - no filtering # nameserver 2620:0:ccc::2 # nameserver 2620:0:ccd::2 As I have disabled ipv6 at present, you see that those lines are commented out. I will enable ipv6 again when I know more about it to adjust my firewall and security settings appropriately. Otherwise, you see above that there are addresses for ipv6 as well as to redirect ipv6 to ipv4. After changing my settings as described above, I restart nscd or sometimes even reboot, but when I check my /etc/resolv.conf, it says that my "original" settings have been restored by networkmanager: # Generated by NetworkManager search lan nameserver 10.246.172.1 I tried changing permissions to rw, but this doesn't help. As I understand it, tdenetworkmanager depends on networkmanager, which is to say Google, I believe. I went into network settings in the Trinity Control Manager (TCC > Internet & Network > Network Settings), created different profiles, and so on, but it does no good. I ended up not being able to connect to internet at all, and could not restore my original settings even though I am scrupulous about backing up before I make changes. I ended up having to reinstall my system, and now I am back in the same place; unable to connect to some sites, notably archive.org. At the moment I cannot tell if this is * a problem with my own configuration * a problem with the sites themselves (e.g., archive.org may have changed things) * a problem with the tdenetworkmanager (which has been crashing more often over the past few months) * a problem with the networkmanager that is a dependency for the tdenetworkmanager * my DNS servers are misconfigured in /etc/resolv.conf or in my network settings * a problem with my local network (over which I have no control, and which goes down a lot) * something else ... There are some other issues to discuss under other headings; not directly related to this problem or problems. I will bring those matters up separately. Any help would be greatly appreciated, so that I can be free again. Bill

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browser woes - partly solved
by William Morder 31 May '26

31 May '26

Okay, so I made a little progress on the Tor Browser installation. It turns out, I have firejail installed, and I usually open my browsers (and a few other items) with a special command, e.g., "firejail firefox", etc. Thus, "firejail torbrowser-launcher" ... When I did this, I managed to get Tor Browser started, running, configured, connecting to internet, visiting web pages, all that good stuff. Except one thing: With my other browsers, I have them configured to use a Socks5 proxy, 127.0.0.1:9050. But with this Tor Browser, I must configure it to use http/https, 127.0.0.1:8118. Otherwise, I can't connect to internet. As I understand it, Socks5 is better for some reason that I now forget. If anybody knows better, I am curious what's going on here. Also, I can get bridges, sort of (they are already built-in), but when I try downloading new bridges, I get hit with a captcha question, but nothing ever appears; no images to click, no characters to enter, or what-not. So, Tor Browser is sort of working, but I can't get past the configuration. Also, when I try to change my web page colors, fonts, etc., nothing happens. I looked for where Tor Browser calls home in my system, but it's not in the usual folder, i.e., /home/<user name./.mozilla/<mozilla browser>. There is a torbrowser folder in /home/<user name>/.config/torbrowser, but it only contains a json file. I would do a little self-hacking of about:config, etc., but first, I would like to find where this stuff is kept. I usually make backups before I start messing round. Bill

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browser woes
by William Morder 31 May '26

31 May '26

Okay, so on to the next step in my self-improvement program. I want to get the Tor Browser working on my machine. Indeed I have used it with no problems before, but now I can only manage to download the packages. I have tried installing the sid experimental version; tried going conservative and installing the version that is supposed to match my system (torbrowser-launcher=0.3.6-2); likewise I went primitive, and tried installing from source. After a bit of research online, I tried installing as sudo, a few obscure esoteric tricks, all to no avail. The most joy that I can get is when I tried the command tried running tdesu torbrowser-launcher, then it went through the motions of download the whole thing, but then aborted, telling me that torbrowser cannot be run as root, then it closed. I managed to untar the source packages for the current version (tor-browser-linux-x86_64-15.0.14.tar.xz) into a folder, but cannot seem to find anywhere to put it, or get it to run, or to complete installation, or whatever is the hangup. It's been a few years, but I ran the Tor Browser on a Windoze machine, ran it as a portable version from a flash drive, so I could use it sometimes on public computer, and I have run it in Linux, back in the days of KDE3.5 Hardy Heron 8.x, and again, if I recall, in an early TDE Devuan installation ... I believe sometime around Jessie? Anyway, nothing seems to work right now. I am considering building a Unabomber cabin deep in the woods, or maybe finding an empty cave up in the mountains, but then I thought, I must be missing something. I ought to give it another try. I would like to use the Tor Browser mainly to be able to download bridges, as I cannot easily do that with tork-trinity (even though it is supposed to be possible). That might be a bug, I don't know? I don't want to get a Gmail email address, nor even a RiseUp address, just to get bridges, but I may have to do that. I don't know that I actually *need* bridges, but it can't hurt, as I have been having all kinds of weird connection problems. Anybody who has a clue what is going on with Tor Browser, let me know. Thanks. Bill

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Can I toggle the Active Borders setting using DCOP?
by J Leslie Turriff 31 May '26

31 May '26

Rather than opening kcontrol => Desktop => Active Borders and changing the setting between Disabled and Switch desktop, can I do this in a script via DCOP? That way I could assign it to a key (e.g. Windoze+B) for convenience. I tried identifying a DCOP method for this via kdcop, but couldn't see anything pertinent. Leslie

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Can I toggle the Active Borders setting using DCOP?
by J Leslie Turriff 31 May '26

31 May '26

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Image for TDE on 32bit machines :)
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 26 May '26

26 May '26

Just a heads-up for all devs: TDE 14.2.0 running on a "HP Mini" ATOM 32bit machine. - Kernel 7.0.9 i686 - TDE 14.2.0-DEVELOPMENT - Devuan Ceres Download: - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-2026-05-24-i386.img.xz - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-2026-05-24-i386.img.xz.sha256 Please note: for the old DXXX ATOM CPUS you must use the "modesetting" driver, otherwise the GPU will crash: cat > $MNT/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf << XXX Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" # Driver "intel" Driver "modesetting" Option "NoAccel" "True" Option "DRI" "False" EndSection XXX So dust off those old machines on your shelfs and basements, you can run a decent OS on them :) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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