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New release: Darkness - version 2026-11-04 - 64 bit and 32 bit
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 04 Nov '26

04 Nov '26

Hi all! I just uploaded the latest relase of "darkness" :) It comes with my new application "tcam" - a native TDE camera application that allows you to change camera settings, resolution, fps, brightness ... and you can add an overlay image, crop the image and feed the video back into a v4l2loopback device that can be used as video source for e.g. meet.jit.si (background removal like obs-backgroundremoval comes in the next version, as does face tracking, filters etc.) Full release notes: Whats in it: - TDE 14.2.0-DEVELOPMENT - tcam - new TDE camera application with v4l2loopback support - Xlibre 25.2.2 - new background images - kernel 7.2.15 - all specific tweaks are packaged in darkness-tweaks - rpi crossinstaller - i386 iso with kernel 7.2.15 for those who love old hardware Notes: - Persistent partition at 3GB when booting the ISO from a USB stick: As long as any future ISO written to the stick is smaller than 3GB the data on the partition is unaffected. - Virtualbox/VMware guest graphics: "modesetting" is used for "VirtualBox GPU". - Laguage: TDE language packs of unused languages are removed when booting from iso, so that translations of missing texts come from english and not from any other language pack - deactivate 3D acceleration on Lenovo X61 / Intel GM965/GL960 - dark theme for OpenSCAD - i386 iso comes without EFI support Download: amd64: - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-20261104.iso - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-20261104.iso.sha256 i386: - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-i386-20261104.iso - https://darkness.klepp.cn/iso/darkness-i386-20261104.iso.sha256 Please feel free to download and try .. and post your experience :) Project homepage: https://www.klepp.cn/darkness/iso/readme.html Announcement thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=66393#p66393 -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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TDE R14.1.7 released!
by Slávek Banko 02 Nov '26

02 Nov '26

Hi all, for those who are not subscribed to tde-announcements, you might be interested in information about the release of R14.1.7: https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/announcements@trin… https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Release_Notes_For_R14.1.7 Cheers Slávek --

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TDE R14.1.7 release postponed by a week
by Michele Calgaro 25 Oct '26

25 Oct '26

Hi, we are sorry to announce that the release of TDE R14.1.7 has been postponed by a week and will happen on Nov 1 instead of today. Building all the packages for the various distributions is taking longer than we initially anticipated and rather than announcing a partially built release, we prefer to wait an extra week. The development of R14.1.8 is unaffected by the delay, since the team is already working on it. Cheers Michele

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KPDF Signal 11
by Thierry de Coulon 08 Oct '26

08 Oct '26

Hello, I've got a PDF (boarding passes) that causes KPDF to crash (SIGSEV signal 11). Other PDFs print fine, that particular one can be printed from qpdfview, or will print correctly from KPDF only after having been printed to pdf from master pdf editor. I've got the gdb crash report, it is quite long and I am not sure if there would be something to bebug and where I could (should) post it. Here is the start that seems to relate to TDe libraries: [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". ==== (gdb) bt ==== [TDECrash handler] #6 0x00007f488b5ad785 in FoFiType1C::convertToType0(char*, void (*)(void*, char*, int), void*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #7 0x00007f488b542ee5 in PSOutputDev::setupEmbeddedCIDType0Font(GfxFont*, Ref*, GString*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #8 0x00007f488b54d523 in PSOutputDev::setupFont(GfxFont*, Dict*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #9 0x00007f488b54d8c8 in PSOutputDev::setupFonts(Dict*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #10 0x00007f488b54d9bf in PSOutputDev::setupResources(Dict*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #11 0x00007f488b54dddb in PSOutputDev::writeDocSetup(Catalog*, int, int) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #12 0x00007f488b54f1d3 in PSOutputDev::init(void (*)(void*, char*, int), void*, PSFileType, XRef*, Catalog*, int, int, PSOutMode, int, int, int, int, int) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #13 0x00007f488b54f4a8 in PSOutputDev::PSOutputDev(char*, XRef*, Catalog*, int, int, PSOutMode, int, int, int, int, int, int) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #14 0x00007f488b50c2f5 in PDFGenerator::print(KPrinter&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #15 0x00007f488b4cf160 in KPDF::Part::doPrint(KPrinter&) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #16 0x00007f488b4d1b31 in KPDF::Part::slotPrint() () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #17 0x00007f488b4d1be8 in KPDF::Part::tqt_invoke(int, TQUObject*) () from /opt/trinity/lib/trinity/libkpdfpart.so #18 0x00007f48916cebeb in TQObject::activate_signal(TQConnectionList*, TQUObject*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #19 0x00007f4891970781 in TQSignal::signal(TQVariant const&) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #20 0x00007f48916e2a30 in TQSignal::activate() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #21 0x00007f48916ed790 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #22 0x00007f489167fa17 in TQApplication::internalNotify(TQObject*, TQEvent*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #23 0x00007f48916769a8 in TQEventLoop::activateTimers() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #24 0x00007f4891663725 in TQEventLoop::gsourceDispatch(_GSource*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #25 0x00007f4891663803 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #26 0x00007f4890c66789 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #27 0x00007f4890c66a18 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #28 0x00007f4890c66aac in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 #29 0x00007f4891662d6b in TQEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #30 0x00007f4891691981 in TQEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #31 0x00007f4891691919 in TQEventLoop::exec() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtqt-mt.so.3 #32 0x00005647e22fa686 in ?? () #33 0x00007f489124524a in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #34 0x00007f4891245305 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 #35 0x00005647e22fac81 in ?? () Thierry

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upgrade was bumpy - a few leftover problems
by William Morder 05 Oct '26

05 Oct '26

Hello everybody! This is rather off-topic, as it doesn't directly concern TDE, so far as I can tell. However, it does concern using my Trinity colors and preferences. Does anybody have a clue what's going on? After reading about Leslie's recent upgrade, I decided that I myself had been putting off a similar upgrade. I run Devuan, so I upgraded from Daedalus to Excalibur. It was actually relatively painless, compared to doing a complete reinstallation from scratch. I dreaded rebooting, fearing that I might end up with a non-working machine, but everything looks and works practically the same as before. However ... there are yet a few glitches that I can't figure out. I am wondering if others have had issues something like these. 1. audacious won't start up. I did look up all the documentation and discussions on the forums, but they are mostly old (going back to 2007, etc.). For what it's worth, I have my audacious configured to start up after boot, which has worked seamlessly for about ten years now. I haven't changed much since then. I tried renaming these folders, tried renaming the config file, etc., but nothing helps. /home/~/.config/audacious /home/~/.local/audacious Usually, after I do this, then restart audacious, it creates new folders, and new config files. Then I just overwrite these with my own, and after that, everything is fine. This time, however, audacious won't start up at all, although it does appear as a process, briefly, in top, then disappears; and in htop it appears as a process, but does nothing, and I can only kill the process with some effort. I tried installing the plugins, codecs, etc., but thus far can't imagine what the problem may be. 2. I also have problems with qmmp. It starts up and plays just fine, but some of its behavior has changed. It's a minor annoyance, but I would like it to play the way that I had it set. Now I must do a lot more clicking to make playlist and equalizer appear or disappear; before, I would just flip from one view to another, and they disappeared or appears automatically. Before anybody makes the suggestion, I do not want to use qmmp for both online radio and for playing my local files. I have tried this before, and I prefer to stick with my own methods here, if possible, which have worked for twenty years or more. I did try out practically every other media player that might work as a substitute, but they are all inadequate in some way. Mostly, I want them to have equalization and that kind of thing, and to use Winamp skins. 3. VLC suddenly will not accept my system colors (i.e., TDE colors), but instead uses some kind of default. At least it's legible, and still plays about the same as before. But I imagine it's related to this same issue. 4. Likewise, smplayer plays the same, but now it starts up with a plain white interface, whereas before it used some kind of Gnomish-looking color scheme. In all of these cases -- and there may be others, but I haven't searched through my whole system -- one common factor is that I end up with a totally white interface (with black fonts) for menus and such. To be clear, I use my color scheme to save my eyesight, which has been giving me problems more and more with age. A white background is like torture, and within five or ten minutes, my eyes get watery, and I can't see. I've been using dark color schemes ever since the year 2000 or so, and I would like to keep it that way. At present, I really want to get audacious working again, as I usually have either qmmp playing online radio, or audacious playing music from my files. The rest, I can live with, and sort out it time. Sorry for the length. As I said, these problems all seem to be, in some way, the same underlying problem. Thanks for any help. Bill

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Does Trinity support the Freedesktop "Thumbnail Managing Standard"?
by MLR 30 Sep '26

30 Sep '26

Hello. Does Trinity support the "Thumbnail Managing Standard"? https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail/latest/ https://thinglab.org/2025/08/linux_desktop_thumbnails/ https://askubuntu.com/questions/1368910/how-to-create-custom-thumbnailers-f… I want to create (png) thumbnails with a script in "~/.local/share/thumbnailers". Best regards Marcus

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What's the best way to upgrade from Bookworm to whatever is current?
by J Leslie Turriff 24 Sep '26

24 Sep '26

I think I'm probably more than one release back from current; do I upgrade one release at a time, or can I go direct? and what is the current release? Leslie

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Bug with Konqueror in 4k
by Luciano ES 24 Sep '26

24 Sep '26

Hi! I've been using Trinity for a little while and I ran into this bug in Konqueror. Are you aware of it? https://limewire.com/d/s6LpF#lNVi3J74PG It only happens in the 4k resolution. I also tested 1920x1080 and 2560×1440. It seems the problem only happens in 4k. Thanks in advance, -- Luciano ES >>

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apt-get install fails when installing qpdf
by J Leslie Turriff 24 Sep '26

24 Sep '26

Trying to install qpdf, I get an error: qpdf : Depends: libqpdf30 (> 12.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). Apparently my package database has become corrupted? I tried the suggestion but it's not helping. I am a beginner with Debian systems; on openSUSE I would have some idea how to proceed, but not here. Leslie @19:23:13 root@toreador wd=/root ● apt-get install qpdf Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kspy-trinity : Depends: tdelibs14-trinity-dev but it is not going to be installed libpoppler156 : Depends: libcurl4-gnutls (>= 8.20.0-3~) but it is not going to be installed libpoppler162 : Depends: libcurl4-gnutls (>= 8.20.0-3~) but it is not going to be installed libreoffice-calc : Depends: coinor-libcoinmp0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmd4c-html0 (>= 0.4.4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: liborcus-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: liborcus-parser-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: liborcus-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0-5) but it is not going to be installed libreoffice-core : Depends: libclucene-contribs1t64 (>= 2.3.3.4+dfsg) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libclucene-core1t64 (>= 2.3.3.4+dfsg) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libcmis-0.6-6t64 (>= 0.6.1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libexttextcat-2.0-1 (>= 2.2-8) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libhunspell-1.7-0 (>= 1.7.3+really1.7.3) but 1.7.2+really1.7.2-11+b1 is to be installed Depends: libmythes-1.2-0 (>= 2:1.2.6) but 2:1.2.5-2+b1 is to be installed Depends: liborcus-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: liborcus-parser-0.21-0 (>= 0.21.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: librdf0t64 (>= 1.0.17) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libxmlsec1-10310 (>= 1.2.35) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libxmlsec1-nss10310 (>= 1.2.31) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libzxing4 (>= 3.0) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: afdko-bin but it is not going to be installed qpdf : Depends: libqpdf30 (> 12.4.1~) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). rc=100 @19:23:59 root@toreador wd=/root ● apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: acpi acpi-fakekey acpi-support acpi-support-base acpid arj artsbuilder-trinity bind9-dnsutils bind9-host bind9-libs binutils-dev blinken-trinity cifs-utils comerr-dev dcoprss-trinity desktop-base-trinity dfc dmeventd dnsutils dvisvgm edict efivar festival festlex-cmu festlex-poslex festvox-kallpc16k firebird3.0-common firebird3.0-common-doc firebird3.0-server-core firebird3.0-utils flac fonts-dustin fonts-font-awesome fonts-sjfonts girepository-tools gparted gparted-common grub-efi grub-pc-bin guidance-backends-trinity gwenview-trinity gzrt hfsprogs iat icu-devtools imlib-base imlib11 indi-trinity inxi java-wrappers juk-trinity kaboodle-trinity kaddressbook-plugins-trinity kalarm-trinity kalzium-data-trinity kalzium-trinity kanagram-trinity kandy-trinity kanjidic kapptemplate-trinity karm-trinity kaudiocreator-trinity kbruch-trinity kbstate-trinity kbugbuster-trinity kcoloredit-trinity kdict-trinity kdpkg-trinity kdvi-trinity keduca-trinity kfax-trinity kfaxview-trinity kgamma-trinity kgeography-data-trinity kgeography-trinity kget-trinity khangman-trinity kig-trinity kiten-trinity klatin-trinity klettres-data-trinity klettres-trinity kmag-trinity kmailcvt-trinity kmousetool-trinity kmouth-trinity kmplot-trinity kmtrace-trinity knewsticker-trinity knode-trinity kolourpaint-trinity konsolekalendar-trinity kontact-trinity kopete-trinity korn-trinity kpercentage-trinity kpf-trinity kpovmodeler-trinity kppp-trinity krb5-multidev krec-trinity kruler-trinity ksayit-trinity kscd-trinity ksig-trinity ksirc-trinity kstars-data-trinity kstars-trinity ksystemlog-trinity ktalkd-trinity ktnef-trinity ktouch-trinity kttsd-trinity kturtle-trinity kuickshow-trinity kuiviewer-trinity kverbos-trinity kview-trinity kviewshell-trinity kvoctrain-trinity kwifimanager-trinity kwordquiz-trinity libacl1-dev libaec0 libaio1 libaio1t64 libart-2.0-dev libarts1-audiofile-trinity libarts1-mpeglib-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity libasound2-dev libaspell-dev libattr1-dev libaudiofile-dev libavahi-client-dev libavahi-common-dev libavahi-tqt-dev libblkid-dev libboost-dev libboost-filesystem1.74.0 libboost-iostreams1.74.0 libboost-locale1.74.0 libboost-python1.74.0 libboost-thread1.74.0 libboost1.74-dev libbotan-2-19 libbz2-dev libc-devtools libcbor0.8 libdbus-1-dev libdbus-1-tqt-dev libdbus-glib-1-2 libdevmapper-event1.02.1 libestools2.5 libextutils-depends-perl libfcgi-bin libfcgi0ldbl libffi-dev libfstrm0 libgadu3 libgio-2.0-dev-bin libgirepository-1.0-1 libglib2.0-dev-bin libgpgmepp6 libgphoto2-l10n libgssrpc4 libgumbo1 libgumbo3 libib-util libicu-dev libidn-dev libimath-dev libjasper-dev libjemalloc2 libjim0.81 libjpeg-dev libjs-underscore libkadm5clnt-mit12 libkadm5srv-mit12 libkdb5-10 libkgantt0-trinity libkiten1-trinity libkpathsea6 libkrb5-dev liblbfgsb0 liblua5.4-dev liblvm2cmd2.03 libmad0-dev libmaxminddb0 libmbedcrypto7 libmeanwhile1 libmosquitto1 libmount-dev libmp4v2-2 libmujs2 libmujs3 libmupdf27.0 libncurses-dev libnsl-dev libogg-dev libopenaptx0 libopenblas-dev libopenblas-pthread-dev libopenblas0 libopenexr-dev liborcus-0.17-0 liborcus-parser-0.17-0 libpcre2-32-0 libpcre2-dev libpcre2-posix3 libpcre3 libpkgconf3 libplymouth5 libpocofoundation80 libpoconet80 libpocoxml80 libpoppler-tqt libpoppler156 libpotrace0 libprotobuf-c1 libptexenc1 libpthread-stubs0-dev libpython3-all-dev libpython3.11-dev libpython3.13 libpython3.13-dev libpythonize0-trinity libqt5opengl5 libr-dev libre0 libreadline-dev librem0 librlog5v5 librss1-trinity libsasl2-dev libselinux1-dev libsepol-dev libsigsegv2 libssl-dev libsub-override-perl libsynctex2 libsystemd-dev libtdeedu3-trinity libteckit0 libtexlua53-5 libtexluajit2 libtidy5deb1 libtiff-tools libtirpc-dev libtool-bin libtqca libtspi1 libudev-dev libva-glx2 libvdpau-va-gl1 libvorbis-dev libxatracker2 libxcomposite-dev libxine2-x libxml2-dev libxml2-utils libxsimd-dev libxslt1-dev linux-image-6.1.0-26-amd64 linux-image-6.1.0-37-amd64 lisa-trinity lmodern lp-solve lvm2 lzip lzop matrixos-bootloaders matrixos-settings mesa-vdpau-drivers mpeglib-trinity mupdf-tools native-architecture network-manager-tde noatun-trinity nrg2iso pkg-config plymouth plymouth-label plymouth-themes plymouth-x11 poxml-trinity pytdeextensions-trinity python3-all-dev python3-appdirs python3-beniget python3-fs python3-gast python3-packaging python3-ply python3-pythran python3-pytz python3-six python3-tz python3.11 python3.11-dev python3.11-minimal python3.13-dev qtgstreamer-plugins-qt5 rpcsvc-proto ruby3.1 subversion sudo sudo-trinity synaptic-trinity t1utils talk tde-icons-mono-trinity tdeaccessibility-trinity tdeaddons-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdecachegrind-trinity tdednssd-trinity tdeedu-data-trinity tdeedu-trinity tdegraphics-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdegraphics-trinity tdemid-trinity tdemultimedia-kappfinder-data-trinity tdemultimedia-trinity tdenetwork-filesharing-trinity tdenetwork-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdenetwork-trinity tdepim-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdepim-trinity tdepim-wizards-trinity tdesdk-misc-trinity tdesdk-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdesudo-trinity tdeunittest-trinity tdewebdev-trinity tex-common tex-gyre texlive-base texlive-binaries texlive-fonts-recommended texlive-latex-base thin-provisioning-tools tipa tqca-tls tree ttf-sjfonts umbrello-trinity unace unalz unison-2.52 vdpau-driver-all vlc-l10n vorbis-tools xtl-dev Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. The following additional packages will be installed: coinor-libcbc3.1 coinor-libcoinmp0 curl firebird4.0-server-core libarrow2500 libboost-iostreams1.90.0 libclucene-contribs1t64 libclucene-core1t64 libcmis-0.6-6t64 libcurl4-gnutls libcurl4t64 libexttextcat-2.0-1 libexttextcat-data libhunspell-1.7-0 libmd4c-html0 libmimalloc3 libmythes-1.2-0 libngtcp2-crypto-ossl0 liborcus-0.21-0 liborcus-parser-0.21-0 libparquet2500 librasqal3t64 librdf0t64 libre2-11 libthrift-0.24.0 libxmlsec1-10310 libxmlsec1-nss10310 libzxing4 Suggested packages: firebird4.0-server rasqal-utils librdf-storage-mariadb librdf-storage-postgresql librdf-storage-sqlite librdf-storage-virtuoso redland-utils Recommended packages: firebird4.0-utils The following packages will be REMOVED: coinor-libcbc3 coinor-libcoinmp1v5 kspy-trinity libclucene-contribs1v5 libclucene-core1v5 libexttextcat-2.0-0 librasqal3 librdf0 libxmlsec1 libxmlsec1-nss tdesdk-trinity The following NEW packages will be installed: coinor-libcbc3.1 coinor-libcoinmp0 libarrow2500 libboost-iostreams1.90.0 libclucene-contribs1t64 libclucene-core1t64 libcmis-0.6-6t64 libcurl4-gnutls libexttextcat-2.0-1 libmd4c-html0 libmimalloc3 liborcus-0.21-0 liborcus-parser-0.21-0 libparquet2500 librasqal3t64 librdf0t64 libthrift-0.24.0 libxmlsec1-10310 libxmlsec1-nss10310 libzxing4 The following packages will be upgraded: curl firebird4.0-server-core libcurl4t64 libexttextcat-data libhunspell-1.7-0 libmythes-1.2-0 libngtcp2-crypto-ossl0 libre2-11 8 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 11 to remove and 1750 not upgraded. 50 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/18.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 48.7 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y (Reading database… 238981 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack …/libcurl4-gnutls_8.22.0-1_amd64.deb… Unpacking libcurl4-gnutls:amd64 (8.22.0-1)… dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl4-gnutls_8.22.0-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.8.0', which is also in package libcurl3-gnutls:amd64 (7.88.1-10+deb12u14) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcurl4-gnutls_8.22.0-1_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) rc=100

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kPDF says this is a password-protected PDF
by J Leslie Turriff 20 Sep '26

20 Sep '26

I downloaded three documentation PDFs for a new motherboard, but when I try to open any of them, kPDF asks for a password.* I can open them with kGhostview, but that application is quite primitive compared with kPDF. Does anyone know why this is happening, and how to get past the password prompt? You can experiment with one of the documents, which I have stored at <https://c.mail.com/@649596501445582267/Q3yZyhtyLVI29-W0bgEUZQ> Leslie *See attached images.

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