5 Oct
2015
5 Oct
'15
8:46 p.m.
On Monday 05 October 2015 19:59:49 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Saturday 03 of October 2015 17:09:27 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
No, there are two issues here, whicxh I confused because I was getting so
frustrated..
Your prelimuinary stable builds which I was trying to install and couldn't.
That turned out to be because I had mistyped and couldn't see. Your
repositiory is completely reliable. On that occasion luckily Tim's was
working.
But you only have a repository for r14. You no longer have one for 3.5.13
because it is no longer being worked on. So there is not a reliable source
for it.
Having had a very frustrating time trying to install r14 on a new install,
when I finally succeeded I went to bed. But next morning I came to update my
desktop - 3.5.13.2 - and couldn't. See the error message above. I am trying
to proseletise TDE, but I can't when installation and updating are so
horribly unreliable. I convert people, and they say how lovely it is. Start
using it. Hit problems installing and updating and run away again.
The over-riding problem is that only you have ever run a reliable repository
ever since I have used TDE.
And we keep being directed to the pearson computing site because it will
direct us to the best mirror, but it doesn't. How the United States lives
with its rotten infrastructure beats me. I suppose it is used to it, as we
are to our overcrowded roads and ancient train system.
Google doesn't attempt to rely on the States:
<quote>
Google data center locations. If you include data centers that are under
construction, Google has 19 locations in the US where they operate data
centers, 12 in Europe, one in Russia, one in South America, and three in
Asia.
</quote>
Please, please, please can the main public facing stuff be somewhere else?
Lisi
On Saturday 03 October 2015 00:28:39 Slávek Banko
wrote:
Sorry, I did not realize that you do not have in mind the Preliminary
stable builds, but my 3.5.13.x repository on the PPA. Unfortunately it is
not available on mirrors. However, it is very consistent with the final
3.5.13.2, which is available on the official mirrors.
...so the problem comes back to the unavailable of primary server during
the weekend and discussion about vps. On Friday 02 of October 2015 19:47:11 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
Yes, Slávek, I'm sorry. I managed to install with Tim's repositories,
and, once I could see a bit, there was a comma instead of a full stop at
one point in your repository in my sorces.list. I had checked and
checked it, but i just couldn't see it!! :-(
I was lucky that Tim's was OK. It very rarely is. It is inaccessible
again this morning.
This is an ongoing problem that I have with spreading the word about TDE.
Tim's repository is almost normally not available for us (in England? On
the South Coast? Everyone I know who tries to use TDE!), and it is hard
to find anything else to use. When I asked recently I was told just to
use Tim's and it would chose the best mirror. That is no use if Tim's is
unavailable.
I always say just to use Slávek's. Yesterday was the first time that
Slávek's has appeared to be unavailable, and in fact it was. It is very
reliable, but hard to find for someone happening on the website.
The error message that I am currently getting (it has been alright on
this particular computer for the last few days since I set it up when I
wrote the other day and asked about mirrors) is under my signature.
Can we at least localise this problem. It has been there ever since I
have been using TDE and makes installing TDE difficult. Does it apply
anywhere other than the south of England? Once we have localised it, can
someone help me solve it? Perhaps we need to find a main mirror this
side of the Atlantic.
And meanwhile what mirror does anyone other than Mike (thanks for your
advice, Mike, when I asked a week ago. But as you can see it hasn't
helped) suggest for 3.5.13.2 now I can't use a nice reliable Slávek one
for it? I currently can't connect to the web archive (I was going to
link to my email about this of a week ago) so you won't even get this for
a bit!
One person, who sets computers up for "old people" and decided that Unity
was too resource hungry for old computers, has abandoned TDE (which was
front runner) in favour of LXDE largely because of this problem. It is
really very tedious to be unable to install/update time after time while
you wait for whatever gremlin is amusing himself to go away. I just said
to use Slávek's repository, but he very reasonably pointed out that it
doesn't say so here:
I was going to link to the page on how to get TDE. It is unavailable.
There is obviously a larger problem at the moment. But the update
problem is ongoing.
There must be a reliable mirror somewhere that can be reached from
England. If not, give me a mentor who will help with advice, because I
don't know where or how to start, and I'll try to find you one. And
anyhow I'll start asking people how to do it.
The best, of course, would be to be in Debian's repostitories, but we
haven't the resources for that. :-(
Perhaps we are just too small and need to find a millionnaire?
Lisi
Error message for update:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
/d ists/wheezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:80
(192.119.205.243). - connect (113: No route to host)
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5
.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/Release.gpg: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
/d ists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
/d ists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5
.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5
.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
/d ists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian
/d ists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5
.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
W: Failed to fetch
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5
.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages: Unable to connect to
ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net:http:
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.
E: Couldn't rebuild package cache I have just tried to install TDE, but have been
told that Slávek's
repository is not accessible. ??? I'll try Tim's for now.
Lisi
Now I tried it and the web server appears to be normally available. I
tested the availability of packages for Jessie and apt source seems to
be fine.