On 6/19/25 19:38, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Thursday 19 June 2025 02:50:50 Alejo Fernandez via tde-users wrote:
jacobheinrichï¼ hotmail.com wrote:
Wait... We have the original model/vector for Konqi?
Yup! Here it's all: http://www.kde.com/stuff/clipart.php Hurry up, before it disappear! P.S: Only works on very old Blender versions (unfortunately).
- Alejo
Works fine in bookworms gwenview
Personally, I don't like the name Tonqi at all; I also didn't like the name of his ancestor, Konqi.
+1, there has to be a better substitue, I could tolerate triad.
While we are at it, I wonder why is his female counterpart is named Katya and not Tatya (which is also a name)? It seems to me that Tatya would be more appropriate, and involves fewer mental contortions than the Konqi > Tonqi business.
Anything can be a name, it just needs to roll off the tongue ok in most
languages.
Also, this female dragon almost seems to be added as an afterthought; even though, in her description, she seems a much more developed and captivating; certainly a more interesting character than Konqi / Tonqi.
I will put it out there, then: Why not have a female mascot, and let the masculine play second fiddle for a change?
To bolster my argument in favor of a female mascot, I would like to adduce hundreds of literary proofs, going back to the Sumerians, in which the dragon, in whatever culture, is often actually female, or a pair, female first, then male. (This is a special subject of study for me, so don't ask for more proofs unless you really like reading a lot.) Popular notions of dragons, whether they actually existed, what forms they took, whether they are actually dinosaurs, etc., are skewed by the influence of fantasy and science fiction literature.
If it were up to me, I would use some other symbol entirely for our mascot: a fresh start. Besides, if I am to get even more pedantic about it: 1. Dragons have spots (sometimes conflated with scales). 2. Dragons are really part serpent, at least in origin; in many ancient languages, the terms for dragon and serpent are interchangeable. It reminds me of that Zen Buddhist saying about "putting legs on a snake" (referring to a specious argument). A dragon really is just a serpent with legs and other parts added.
Enough of that, though, or this becomes one of those specious arguments. We are stuck with dragons, I imagine, because it was part of the old KDE3 branding, so we make the best of it we can.
Back to my earlier suggestion, then: rename Katya as Tatya, maybe make her the primary mascot instead of this other unfortunately named creature. I prefer Triton over Tonqi, if it comes to that. At least with names, maybe we ought to consider a fresh start?
And one last bit, just for good measure. I believe, somewhere in those pages, I found a sorcerer or magician figure; altogether they make up a kind of "trinity" ... which I consider a lucky accident. I will look again, to make sure I did not misremember!
I would suggest that we name the magician character "Tim the Enchanter": for reasons which will be obvious to some, which may take a bit of contemplation for others, but which I believe will especially suit TDE. Maybe not the whole bit; maybe just call him Tim?
Bill
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