On Saturday 16 January 2021 21:47:15 Felix Miata wrote:
William Morder composed on 2021-01-16 21:23
(UTC-0800):
Why not try to work on getting me to exercise
more, while you are at it,
or to stick to a healthier diet, or to stop smoking? Those are far more
worthy goals, in my opinion, and might actually succeed, as I do really
want to improve myself.
I for one will continue to apply the golden rule.
I don't disagree with you, Felix. The TDE mailing list has used this same rule
ever since TDE got started.
With respect, however, this one thing is the single biggest cause for
complaints among us all, and causes us to keep going round in these same
ruts ... again and again and again ... round and round ...
Yes, no top-posting *does* make logical sense, for flow of reading; no
disagreements there. And in some ideal nerdist paradise, this is the way
things *ought* to be. But in reality, about half of us never trim, or only
seldom, while others top-post out of habit.
So because of this one rule, no top-posting, we are put in the position of
trying to reform others of their bad habits. But -- I am just guessing -- the
main reasons that many of us do not trim the layers of posts are:
1) respect for the other person's views
2) one gets rather too enthusiastic, and wants to respond right NOW, and hits
send a few seconds too soon.
(We ought to remind ourselves, by the way, that every one of us are much less
interesting to other people than we are to ourselves.)
Now, if we would just top-post, like other emails in general, the dynamics are
changed. It will be difficult to read backwards sometimes, but half of the
offending posts are those layers upon layers of conversation which we are
asked to trim. And the few lines of response are right at the top; no need to
scroll through six screens to get to the punchline. And then, every so often
somebody or other will come along and clean it up, trim off the layers that
other people left neglected and untidy. Top-posting would just be SO much
easier for everybody.
Anyway, I will follow the group consensus, and try to abide by the rules and
respect others. I just believe that we waste a lot of time complaining about
what is readily fixed by changing this one thing.
Bill