On Saturday 14 July 2018 21:16:45 Mike Bird wrote:
On Sat July 14 2018 20:38:56 William Morder wrote:
Sorry, got to add my 2 cents' worth here. I
believe that this must be a
Devuan bug; there could be problems with slim and tdm-trinity, although I
think it is immaterial to my point here.
The reason I would trace it to Devuan is that I only ever ran apt-get
dist-upgrade; I never tried to install slim or xfce, nor libreoffice,
etc., but these were installed automatically. I had assumed, wrongly,
that I would get only upgrades of what was already installed.
To upgrade existing packages use "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade".
I always do that, except that I don't put the two commands together. Is there
some reason that it is better to run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
and
not "apt-get update" and then afterwards "apt-get upgrade"?
"apt-get dist-upgrade" is only required in complex situations, e.g.
where other packages must be added or removed to accommodate package
upgrades. This normally only happens when upgrading to a new release.
Whenever "apt-get dist-upgrade" is needed it is important to carefully
check what apt-get proposes to do and determine to your own satisfaction
that the proposed actions are sensible, safe, and appropriate.
Yes, I ought to have checked the list carefully, but I wasn't expecting any
changes, as I had done this same thing many times previously without
incident. I will blame it on my messed-up sleep patterns, and try to be more
careful in future.
The information from "apt-get rdepends ..."
and/or "aptitude why ..."
is the first step on the road to determining whether this is a Devuan
or Debian or PEBCAK problem.
--Mike
I'll keep all this in mind when I try to get rid of systemd. Thanks for the
information.
Bill