31 Aug
2020
31 Aug
'20
8:04 a.m.
On Monday 31 August 2020 00:54:16 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
On 2020-08-30 20:26:35 William Morder via
trinity-users wrote:
Yes, I was saying this more for the benefit of others. Don't waste your
time trying to get the newer phones to work like that, because things
have changed. Now we need to use other methods or protocols to get there.
I had an old Samsung Android that I used for work, a few years ago. (I
forget the exact model now, as it wasn't mine to keep, and I used it only
for work.) But I just plugged it in, and presto!
So when I got a slightly newer phone (Samsung Galaxy On5 S550TL), I
imagined, wrongly, that I would be able to do the same, but it is not so.
Only by accident did I discover that MATE's Caja file manager seems to
recognize the MTP protocol. As for your phone, I don't know: is it
rooted?
Bill
It is not.
If I understand you correctly, MTP works for older phones but not newer
ones? I had the impression from reading this thread that MTP was something
new; now I'm confused. :-)
Leslie
I cannot say authoritatively whether MTP is "new" or "old"; what I do
know is
that I never saw that protocol with my old phone. I could just connect my
phone to computer using a USB plug, and it worked just like a flash drive.
When I got a newer phone, it didn't work, and that's when I heard about MTP,
so I assume that it is newer. Maybe it was always around, for as long as
smartphones, but I didn't notice because it just worked. Regardless, whether
MTP is a recent development or not, something has been fundamentally changed,
so we must find different ways to get there.
Bill
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On Sunday 30 August 2020 17:36:37 J Leslie
Turriff wrote:
> On 2020-08-30 19:27:34 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
> > On Sunday 30 August 2020 17:19:08 J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > On 2020-08-30 19:07:51 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > > On Monday 31 of August 2020 01:40:16 Felix Miata via tde-users
wrote:
> > > deloptes composed on 2020-08-31 01:01
(UTC+0200):
> > > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > > >> Does TDE have an app made for this purpose? If yes, what's
> > > >> it called. If not, suggest something please.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't konqueror working for you?
> > > >
> > > > AFAIK Android also uses MTP.
> > > > I just found out recently (for a second time) that I need
> > > > udisks2. Konqueror does the rest assuming you have the tdeio
> > > > plugins and the permissions.
> > > > My phone is not exactly android, but MTP is MTP.
> > >
> > > Konq's media doesn't show it. Konq says protocol not supported
> > > if I type in mtp:/ or mtp:///. If mtp://, it lists / content.
> > > No kind of popup announces phone's been connected, even though
> > > kernel certainly noticed:
> > >
> > > # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'udisk|tdeb|eio' | sort
> > > libudisks2-0-2.6.5-lp151.3.3.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-bin-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-data-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-libtqt3-integration-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-runtime-data-common-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-pim-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-smb-plugin-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebindings-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdebindings-java-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > trinity-tdepim-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64
> > > udisks2-2.6.5-lp151.3.3.x86_64
> > > # dmesg tail
> > > [ 16.257759] sky2 0000:05:00.0 eth0: enabling interface
> > > [ 220.180082] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 2
> > > using uhci_hcd [ 220.320054] usb 3-2: device descriptor
> > > read/64, error -71 [ 220.564091] usb 3-2: device descriptor
> > > read/64, error -71 [ 221.008081] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB
> > > device number 3 using uhci_hcd [ 221.144082] usb 3-2: device
> > > descriptor read/64, error -71 [ 221.388055] usb 3-2: device
> > > descriptor read/64, error -71 [ 221.496101] usb usb3-port2:
> > > attempt power cycle
> > > [ 221.940075] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 4
> > > using uhci_hcd [ 222.356061] usb 3-2: device not accepting
> > > address 4, error -71 [ 222.484064] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB
> > > device number 5 using uhci_hcd [ 222.900051] usb 3-2: device
> > > not accepting address 5, error -71 [ 222.900086] usb
> > > usb3-port2: unable to enumerate USB device [ 294.379489]
> > > FS-Cache: Loaded [ 294.408171] RPC: Registered named UNIX
> > > socket transport module. [ 294.408174] RPC: Registered udp
> > > transport module. [ 294.408175] RPC: Registered tcp transport
> > > module.
> > > [ 294.408175] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel
> > > transport module. [ 294.441320] FS-Cache: Netfs 'nfs'
> > > registered for caching [ 294.452516] Key type dns_resolver
> > > registered [ 294.484410] NFS: Registering the id_resolver key
> > > type [ 294.484422] Key type id_resolver registered
> > > [ 294.484423] Key type id_legacy registered
> > > [ 322.793093] sky2 0000:05:00.0 eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps,
> > > full duplex, flow control both
> > > [ 323.000756] NET: Registered protocol family 17
> > > #
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > some time ago I looked that for newer phones that probably prefer
> > MPT transfers instead of traditional usb-storage, we will
> > probably need to port something like this to TDE - tdeio-slave:
> >
> > https://github.com/KDE/kio-mtp
> >
> > Cheers
>
> Hmmm... My relatively elderly Samsung SM-920A worked automagically
> after I plugged it in via USB; the phone asked me if I wanted to
> allow data sharing via MTP, and when I poked Allow the media
> manager appeared on my desktop, showing 'Unknown device 1-12:1.0,
> Medium type: Camera, with choices of Open in new window, digiKam
> Detect and Download, or Do Nothing.
>
> Leslie
Yup, older phones worked just by plugging in to USB; it was as easy
as using a flash drive. The newer phones have gone to this MTP
protocol.
Bill
But as I said, my old phone Does use the MTP protocol, and it shows up
in the Removable Media manager.
Leslie