2 Sep
2020
2 Sep
'20
4:43 p.m.
On Tuesday 01 September 2020 09:38:31 pm greg wrote:
https://doc.e.foundation/devices/
Number of Smartphones officially supported by /e/OS : 93
Select Region: North America
-No results found-
Bummer, although I wasn't that happy with their you must have an /e/ account?
(I could have read that wrong though)
Thanks for the link!,
Michael
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On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:08 PM, J Leslie Turriff <jlturriff(a)mail.com>
wrote:
On 2020-09-01
16:42:50 deloptes wrote:
well said, my experience also.
My solution is pay for webmail, protonmail, mykolab. encrypted (end to
end).
I have been following /e/. /e/ provides a "de-googleized" android, supports
quite a few phones if you are into flashing stuff. /e/ also sells phones
pre-installed.
https://e.foundation/ , Europe..I wonder if the phones would work in the
USA. Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Yep; way too many unchecked monopolies in the "technology" world today. From a search I get that mass storage was dropped
when Android/Google
increased "data scurity" on the phones. Why we are not allowed to
take responsibility for the security of our data I don't know.
I guess that any newer Android version will be MTP only. I did try
various Linux OSes on a PinePhone and I nust say the results are -
for the time being - quite devastating. The device is slow, and the
OS are far from ready, to the point that many can't even... phone.
Apps don't adapt to the screen, most don't rotate (and usually only
manualy if they do). There's no camera suppport or very bad if any.
I don't use my phone much, and I I still use a "real" camera for
pictures, but even so I'm not abandonning my compact Sony for a
while.
I started using Nokia N9 when the whole madness around "smart" kicked
in. It was a kind of debian OS (MeeGo) and it is still a great phone.
Few years later when Nokia gave up the guys that were working on N9
founded Jolla and 2016 I bought the Intex AquaFish, that unfortunately
finally ended in the hands of my wife. 2017 it was not possible to
purchase the Intex anymore, because production was too expensive and
Jolla was in bad shape (They failed on the hardware manufacturing
costs). I went for Sony Xperia X where you could flash the Saialfish OS
and I am still using it today as primary phone. Licensed (29,-€)
version has Dalvik and you can run Android apps as well. I tried last
year XA2 (which has a newer Dalvik), but I failed flashing it and
returned as I did not have the time to investigate. At the moment I can
not find hardware (latest is Xperia 10 or so but is also out of stock).
Long story short there are only few meaningful alternatives to Android
and iOS and there is nothing for my pocket - Librem 5
(https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/) $750,- or PinePhone that you
described very well.
I would like to try librem-5 but 750 is simply too much and I am not
sure it will cover my daily use cases.
In 2016 I was already familiar with Qt, so Sailfish seemed to be a good
choice and things that worked on the N9 still work on the Sailfish
(well some had to be recompiled and pimped of course). But at the
moment I have peace.
It is indeed very very hard to swim against the mainstream on the phone
market. Incredible (IMO)!