10 Jun
2018
10 Jun
'18
2:11 p.m.
On Sunday 10 June 2018 06:50:38 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 10 June 2018 09:29:59 William Morder wrote:
I have found Pale Moon to be a pretty nice clone of Firefox/Iceweasel. I can
use Mozilla browsers pretty much interchangeably, and once I get them like I
want, I just copy everything from one folder to another, so that my Pale
Moon, Firefox, Iceweasel, IceCat, SeaMonkey, and all other Mozilla,
quasi-Mozilla and pseudo-Mozilla browsers look almost identical, and I have
all my custom search engines, extensions, whatever I want. I like to use them
for different kinds of searching online. I don't like to use the same browser
for everything. I use them each for dedicated tasks; for example, I use
SeaMonkey for my one and only social network, and nothing else. I has one
cookie in it, and no browsing information at all, except for my maintenance
of the blog itself. I use Pale Moon for browsing news sites, etc., and it
keeps no history, cookies, etc. And so on, and so on. I like to experiment
with the possibilities, and to try out different browsers, and to see how I
can configure them to do different tricks. I have got them to fetch, but not
yet to roll over or beg.
Anyway, so I backup my sources.list to an external drive:
sudo
cp -r -v -f /etc/apt/sources.list -t
/media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list-20180610.txt
(Also, make sure you open up Konqueror or some other file manager as root, and
explore /etc/apt/ for whatever else you keep there, especially
in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - which is where you'll find third-party
repositories like Opera, Vivaldi, Open Office, and Pale Moon.)
However, I don't allow them to write my sources.list; I copy those
repositories to my master copy on the external drive, and maintain my
sources.list from there. Make sure to rename it to something else; e.g.,with
the date of backup. From this I create my master copy of the sources.list,
and whenever I update my sources.list, I can overwrite the version
in /etc/apt/
sudo cp -r -v -f /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list -t /etc/apt/
and run sudo apt-get update.
By doing this, too, I can update my sources.list on-the-fly, and maintain
different versions of it for different repositories.
I set kedit (actually kedit-trinity) to open up my master copy of the
sources.list (from my external hard drive), and can edit as I go along, and
easily switch between different versions of my sources.list. And I can keep
my own personal repository on a flash drive, and use that as my default, and
switch back to online repositories whenever I need to download something new.
If this seems either obvious or cumbersome, or highly unorthodox, I can only
say that it works for me. I get complete control over my repositories, and do
my updates and upgrades manually, so that nothing gets installed
automatically.
Glad that I could be of some help. I would hate to think that I was good for
nothing.
;-)
Bill
On Sunday 10 June 2018 05:12:19 Gene Heskett
wrote:
Bingo. But the last palemoon needs gtk stuffs newer than wheezy has, so
while I was there, I didn't download it THIS time. It was several months
ago when I put it in. And its been running rougher recently.
> However, I
> don't allow that to happen. I copy the URL of that repo to my
> sources.list manually, then backup and maintain my sources.list on an
> external hard drive.
>
> Bill
> On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:39:32 Pisini, John
wrote:
This is just a wild guess ... but is there any chance that you have
downloaded the Pale Moon browser recently?
Steven Pusser's repo appears after you download Pale Moon. Steven Pusser is one of the MX Linux Devs but I
can't see him
doing that to your machine.
In that event, neither can I. I must have added that repo because it
had something I wanted and have forgotten both when and what.
Hopefully you have backups as the machine should
really be rebuilt.
That I do, amanda runs every night.
Rebuilt to debian amd64 stretch 9.4, iso coming in now. Next is
firmware updates for seagate 2T drives and get another. Then burn a
couple dvd's and a cd of the seagate firmware. And a fresh flash of
my router's dd-wrt. Busy day ahead.
On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Gene Heskett
<gheskett(a)shentel.net>
wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:05:32 deloptes wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Call me puzzled. Or worse.
> > >
> > > this doesn't sound good - I would take the machine offline and
> > > reinstall from scratch ... unless you are schizophrenic and
> > > your other identity is this steven. Cause you won't know what
> > > was replaced/installed from this site. Programs might be
> > > replaced with compromised etc.
> > >
> > > this is my opinion.
> > >
> > > you wanted anyway to upgrade some time soon - what you can
> > > save are the configurations you have there - but I would not
> > > keep this machine online or at least not in my internal
> > > network.
> > >
> > > regards
> >
> > That will be difficult as there is not another machine to
> > replace it, its the heart of my network. But the thought of
> > upgrading to jessie has crossed my mind, maybe even stretch. I'm
> > going to look through the logs, and I guess run up to staples
> > and get me a couple 2T drives. My normal upgrade it always to a
> > new drive so I have the old drive available for the legacy
> > stuffs, like my kmail cache that goes back to about 2007.
> >
> > And this time I think I'll go full 64 bit as some versions of
> > linuxcnc will now run on a 64 bit install. Jessie, on an rpi3b
> > is running my lathe pretty good.
> >
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