10 Jun
2018
10 Jun
'18
5:28 p.m.
On Sunday 10 June 2018 10:11:32 William Morder wrote:
On Sunday 10 June 2018 06:50:38 Gene Heskett wrote:
Chuckle. Yes, thats a bummer feeling. And I'm aged enough that what I say
is often out of date by the time it echo's back from the list.
Anyway, I'm off (as soon as I build some lunch and we partake) to first
update my dd-wrt install just in case, then once thats back among the
living, see if I can figure out how to beat the debian installer into
making a BIG /home, and install stretch from iso #1, to a brand new
drive.
Then see if I can beat stretch into working with a host based local
network. So far, the installs I've done have required a hand applied
command to make the gateway register in route -n output. PITA.
Thanks
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On Sunday 10 June 2018 09:29:59 William Morder
wrote:
I have found Pale Moon to be a pretty nice clone of Firefox/Iceweasel.
I can use Mozilla browsers pretty much interchangeably, and once I get
them like I want, I just copy everything from one folder to another,
so that my Pale Moon, Firefox, Iceweasel, IceCat, SeaMonkey, and all
other Mozilla, quasi-Mozilla and pseudo-Mozilla browsers look almost
identical, and I have all my custom search engines, extensions,
whatever I want. I like to use them for different kinds of searching
online. I don't like to use the same browser for everything. I use
them each for dedicated tasks; for example, I use SeaMonkey for my one
and only social network, and nothing else. I has one cookie in it, and
no browsing information at all, except for my maintenance of the blog
itself. I use Pale Moon for browsing news sites, etc., and it keeps no
history, cookies, etc. And so on, and so on. I like to experiment with
the possibilities, and to try out different browsers, and to see how I
can configure them to do different tricks. I have got them to fetch,
but not yet to roll over or beg.
Anyway, so I backup my sources.list to an external drive:
sudo
cp -r -v -f /etc/apt/sources.list -t
/media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list-20180610.txt (Also,
make sure you open up Konqueror or some other file manager as root,
and explore /etc/apt/ for whatever else you keep there, especially in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - which is where you'll find third-party
repositories like Opera, Vivaldi, Open Office, and Pale Moon.)
However, I don't allow them to write my sources.list; I copy those
repositories to my master copy on the external drive, and maintain my
sources.list from there. Make sure to rename it to something else;
e.g.,with the date of backup. From this I create my master copy of the
sources.list, and whenever I update my sources.list, I can overwrite
the version in /etc/apt/
sudo cp -r -v -f /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list -t
/etc/apt/ and run sudo apt-get update.
By doing this, too, I can update my sources.list on-the-fly, and
maintain different versions of it for different repositories.
I set kedit (actually kedit-trinity) to open up my master copy of the
sources.list (from my external hard drive), and can edit as I go
along, and easily switch between different versions of my
sources.list. And I can keep my own personal repository on a flash
drive, and use that as my default, and switch back to online
repositories whenever I need to download something new.
If this seems either obvious or cumbersome, or highly unorthodox, I
can only say that it works for me. I get complete control over my
repositories, and do my updates and upgrades manually, so that nothing
gets installed automatically.
Glad that I could be of some help. I would hate to think that I was
good for nothing.
;-)
Bill
On Sunday 10 June 2018 05:12:19 Gene Heskett
wrote:
Bingo. But the last palemoon needs gtk stuffs newer than wheezy has,
so while I was there, I didn't download it THIS time. It was several
months ago when I put it in. And its been running rougher recently.
> However, I
> don't allow that to happen. I copy the URL of that repo to my
> sources.list manually, then backup and maintain my sources.list on
> an external hard drive.
>
> Bill On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:39:32 Pisini, John
wrote:
> Steven Pusser is one of the MX Linux Devs but I can't see him
> doing that to your machine.
In that event, neither can I. I must have added that repo
because it had something I wanted and have forgotten both when
and what.
> Hopefully you have backups as the machine should
> really be rebuilt.
That I do, amanda runs every night.
Rebuilt to debian amd64 stretch 9.4, iso coming in now. Next is
firmware updates for seagate 2T drives and get another. Then
burn a couple dvd's and a cd of the seagate firmware. And a
fresh flash of my router's dd-wrt. Busy day ahead.
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Gene Heskett
> <gheskett(a)shentel.net>
wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:05:32 deloptes wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Call me puzzled. Or worse.
> > >
> > > this doesn't sound good - I would take the machine offline
> > > and reinstall from scratch ... unless you are
> > > schizophrenic and your other identity is this steven.
> > > Cause you won't know what was replaced/installed from this
> > > site. Programs might be replaced with compromised etc.
> > >
> > > this is my opinion.
> > >
> > > you wanted anyway to upgrade some time soon - what you can
> > > save are the configurations you have there - but I would
> > > not keep this machine online or at least not in my
> > > internal network.
> > >
> > > regards
> >
> > That will be difficult as there is not another machine to
> > replace it, its the heart of my network. But the thought of
> > upgrading to jessie has crossed my mind, maybe even stretch.
> > I'm going to look through the logs, and I guess run up to
> > staples and get me a couple 2T drives. My normal upgrade it
> > always to a new drive so I have the old drive available for
> > the legacy stuffs, like my kmail cache that goes back to
> > about 2007.
> >
> > And this time I think I'll go full 64 bit as some versions
> > of linuxcnc will now run on a 64 bit install. Jessie, on an
> > rpi3b is running my lathe pretty good.
> >
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This is just a wild guess ... but is there any chance that you
have downloaded the Pale Moon browser recently?
Steven Pusser's repo appears after you download Pale Moon.