19 Feb
2018
19 Feb
'18
10:15 p.m.
On Monday 19 February 2018 13:49:16 Felix Miata wrote:
Yes, the information pages are not easily accessible. Only after you have
thoroughly explored the Trinity site do you know where to find things; but
that's only because I've bookmarked all the important pages. For somebody who
is just starting out, it is like searching in the wilderness, equipped with
nothing - not compass, map, flashlight, nor signposts. That's one of those
items that I would like to see improved; because, as I've already said, more
users for TDE would be of some benefit to all of us ... that is, if we want
to keep using TDE into the indefinite future.
William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 12:53
(UTC-0800):
Yes, I am familiar with this page. I have it bookmarked, added all the lines
to my sources.list (and add new lines as TDE gets updated). I just comment
out the lines I don't use, then delete them as I progress through upgrades.
The commands for apt-get: that is all I use for downloading and installing
pkgs. I don't use synaptic or any of those tools. Otherwise, I use dpkg, if I
have saved pkgs; or when my network is down (which happens more often than
seems normal where I live).
Felix Miata wrote:
I only bother with the script with Fedora because its dependence on
rpmfusion is much too complicated to remember. With any other distro,
adding TDE from the shell is just plain simple, essentially following the
instrucions on
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst
ructions
1:add the two repo lines to /etc/apt/sources.list with mc's internal editor
2:import the gpg key
3:apt update
4:apt install either tde-trinity to get everything, or a desired subset,
such as the five packages you see in my fedora script above.
5:reboot William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 10:53
(UTC-0800):
Not hard at all, if one knows the script. But I don't run Redhat, so I
would have to adapt it to Debian. Now that somebody gave me an old laptop (Sony
Vaio), I can try to
create a system that runs only TDE from the start. But then you must
start out running everything from a shell, am I right? because you
don't yet have TDE installed?
How hard is it to run one little script? e.g. Fedora:
#!/bin/sh
dnf install
https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm
-E %fedora).noarch.rpm
https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release
-$( rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm rpm -Uvh
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f27/trinity-r14
/RP MS/noarch/trinity-repo-14.0.4-1.fc27.noarch.rpm dnf install
trinity-tdebase trinity-kcalc trinity-kmix trinity-ksnapshot trinity-tdm
systemctl enable tdm.service
reboot It seems to me that there are many more people
out there who would like
to run a Linux system with TDE, but they cannot find this sort of
information. This is why I've started this thread. Maybe we can create
some pages somewhere and post this kind of information.
For me, the wiki page above is quite sufficient, once the target distro
installation has been completed. The harder part is finding that page in
the first place. From
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment it's not
obvious to me that
TDE
Documentation
following
Main page
and
Recent changes
is how to eventually find it. The left column on that page needs to be
wider so that the link is not split over two lines when its font is forced
to a legible size.
Probably https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Tips_And_Tricks could stand to
include a writeup or a link to another page that outlines how to do a
minimal Debian installation in preparation to add and run only TDE, unless
there is one somewhere already that I just haven't seen.
FWIW, this is how I create a "new" Debian installation:
title Install Debian via HTTP
kernel (hd0,0)/debian/linux showopts vga=791 ---
netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/disable_dhcp=true tasks=standard
base-installer/install-recommends=false splash=0
initrd (hd0,0)/debian/initrd.gz
What that means is I have multiboot machines with Grub at the ready to load
any stanza I create. I prep the target / partition for a new installation,
save the appropriate installation kernel and initrd from a mirror, then let
Grub start the installation process. With Stretch I doubt it takes as much
as 30 minutes to be ready to initiate the TDE installation process.
This is a net install? I like that. Thanks for your information.
Bill