On Monday 19 February 2018 13:49:16 Felix Miata wrote:
William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 12:53 (UTC-0800):
Felix Miata wrote:
William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 10:53 (UTC-0800):
Now that somebody gave me an old laptop (Sony Vaio), I can try to create a system that runs only TDE from the start. But then you must start out running everything from a shell, am I right? because you don't yet have TDE installed?
How hard is it to run one little script? e.g. Fedora:
#!/bin/sh dnf install https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release -$( rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm rpm -Uvh http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f27/trinity-r14 /RP MS/noarch/trinity-repo-14.0.4-1.fc27.noarch.rpm dnf install trinity-tdebase trinity-kcalc trinity-kmix trinity-ksnapshot trinity-tdm systemctl enable tdm.service reboot
Not hard at all, if one knows the script. But I don't run Redhat, so I would have to adapt it to Debian.
I only bother with the script with Fedora because its dependence on rpmfusion is much too complicated to remember. With any other distro, adding TDE from the shell is just plain simple, essentially following the instrucions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst ructions
1:add the two repo lines to /etc/apt/sources.list with mc's internal editor 2:import the gpg key 3:apt update 4:apt install either tde-trinity to get everything, or a desired subset, such as the five packages you see in my fedora script above. 5:reboot
Yes, I am familiar with this page. I have it bookmarked, added all the lines to my sources.list (and add new lines as TDE gets updated). I just comment out the lines I don't use, then delete them as I progress through upgrades. The commands for apt-get: that is all I use for downloading and installing pkgs. I don't use synaptic or any of those tools. Otherwise, I use dpkg, if I have saved pkgs; or when my network is down (which happens more often than seems normal where I live).
It seems to me that there are many more people out there who would like to run a Linux system with TDE, but they cannot find this sort of information. This is why I've started this thread. Maybe we can create some pages somewhere and post this kind of information.
For me, the wiki page above is quite sufficient, once the target distro installation has been completed. The harder part is finding that page in the first place. From https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment it's not obvious to me that
TDE Documentation
following
Main page and Recent changes
is how to eventually find it. The left column on that page needs to be wider so that the link is not split over two lines when its font is forced to a legible size.
Yes, the information pages are not easily accessible. Only after you have thoroughly explored the Trinity site do you know where to find things; but that's only because I've bookmarked all the important pages. For somebody who is just starting out, it is like searching in the wilderness, equipped with nothing - not compass, map, flashlight, nor signposts. That's one of those items that I would like to see improved; because, as I've already said, more users for TDE would be of some benefit to all of us ... that is, if we want to keep using TDE into the indefinite future.
Probably https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Tips_And_Tricks could stand to include a writeup or a link to another page that outlines how to do a minimal Debian installation in preparation to add and run only TDE, unless there is one somewhere already that I just haven't seen.
FWIW, this is how I create a "new" Debian installation:
title Install Debian via HTTP kernel (hd0,0)/debian/linux showopts vga=791 --- netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/disable_dhcp=true tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false splash=0 initrd (hd0,0)/debian/initrd.gz
What that means is I have multiboot machines with Grub at the ready to load any stanza I create. I prep the target / partition for a new installation, save the appropriate installation kernel and initrd from a mirror, then let Grub start the installation process. With Stretch I doubt it takes as much as 30 minutes to be ready to initiate the TDE installation process.
This is a net install? I like that. Thanks for your information.
Bill