On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Lisi wrote:
Looking at Lisi's bounce results (and seeing that it was a message from _me_ to the list), I notice that the (only) DKIM-Signature in the headers was _mine_ going out of _my_ ISP to the listserver. There is _no_ DKIM-Signature: from the outbound operation from the listserver. So, any DKIM checking on that email's headers would be invalid. I.e., trinity@jonz.net is NOT authorized to send an email from vali.starlink.edu -- as interpreted by Gmail.
I believe there should be an additional DKIM-Signature: inserted (added) by vali.starlink.edu (or mail.pearsoncomputing.net) to correct Gmail "550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain" bounces. One Ref: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=97354
-- especially the last post there.
Anyway, that'sa what I'm a'thinkin...
Jonesy
from Lisi:
Here is the text:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: trinity-users-get.123_145@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to: trinity-users-index@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Here are the message numbers:
3739 3741 3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON@vali.starlink.edu Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: 20121006012955.357B04560241@mail.pearsoncomputing.net
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail systemlisi.reisz@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0 for lisi.reisz@gmail.com; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: mailto:trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Help: mailto:trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Unsubscribe: mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net List-Subscribe: mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Reply-To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mx4.operationenterprise.com X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mx4.operationenterprise.com 3FAD7222457 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jonz.net; s=default; t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TW4C/lBLY8dzvlbDNJtkUw6UpsmI9RCMWBktKzAzCPDVWgLrN1C6GvjzLJKBYmk0D C97sHXp3xkdbYpMeuk08PbXQzqcZlLTeN8RMqN9SPE1q8wm0zJsTgBPL3rSKqw4D7r pUYgoKDPp/pzY54pcsooWgUoVGpCB56CbnqaSaMs= Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonesy trinity@jonz.net To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net In-Reply-To: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657@icf.wbam.arg References: CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@mail.gmail.com User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@jonz.net Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@jonz.net Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@gmail.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@gmail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so.
Jonesy