22 Oct
2012
22 Oct
'12
5:29 p.m.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Lisi wrote:
Looking at Lisi's bounce results (and seeing that it was a message from
_me_ to the list), I notice that the (only) DKIM-Signature in the
headers was _mine_ going out of _my_ ISP to the listserver. There is
_no_ DKIM-Signature: from the outbound operation from the listserver.
So, any DKIM checking on that email's headers would be invalid. I.e.,
trinity(a)jonz.net is NOT authorized to send an email from
vali.starlink.edu -- as interpreted by Gmail.
I believe there should be an additional DKIM-Signature: inserted (added)
by vali.starlink.edu (or mail.pearsoncomputing.net) to correct Gmail
"550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain"
bounces.
One Ref:
https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=97354
-- especially the last post there.
Anyway, that'sa what I'm a'thinkin...
Jonesy
>from Lisi:
Here is the text:
----------------------------------------------------
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net mailing list.
I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at trinity-users-owner(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net.
Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.
If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list,
without further notice.
Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
send an empty message to:
<trinity-users-get.123_145(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
send an empty message to:
<trinity-users-index(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
Here are the message numbers:
3739
3741
3746
--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)vali.starlink.edu>
Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500
Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix)
id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20121006012955.357B04560241(a)mail.pearsoncomputing.net>
This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net
Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.
The mail system
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>om>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said:
550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain.
u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net
Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from
this domain. u15si3064128igi.43
--B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net
Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path:
<trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F
for <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>om>; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net
Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>om>;
Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21])
by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0
for <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>om>; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500
Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net; run by
ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
X-No-Archive: yes
List-Post: <mailto:trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
List-Help: <mailto:trinity-users-help@lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
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Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net
X-Virus-Status: Clean
X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mx4.operationenterprise.com
X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mx4.operationenterprise.com 3FAD7222457
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jonz.net; s=default;
t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=;
h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References;
b=TW4C/lBLY8dzvlbDNJtkUw6UpsmI9RCMWBktKzAzCPDVWgLrN1C6GvjzLJKBYmk0D
C97sHXp3xkdbYpMeuk08PbXQzqcZlLTeN8RMqN9SPE1q8wm0zJsTgBPL3rSKqw4D7r
pUYgoKDPp/pzY54pcsooWgUoVGpCB56CbnqaSaMs=
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jonesy <trinity(a)jonz.net>
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
In-Reply-To:
<CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w(a)mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657(a)icf.wbam.arg>
References:
<CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w(a)mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:
Huh? So you are intentionally having emails
bounce?
Huh? No.
The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity(a)jonz.net
Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity(a)jonz.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist
My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".
Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the
list -- my list message being sent on to him.)
Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9(a)gmail.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9(a)gmail.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted
from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not
accepted from this domain."
Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net"
on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the
reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email
notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report.
(At least that's what I see at
http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 )
I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the
"warning from trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net" makes it to
me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a
no-longer-valid email addy.)
One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or
earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2
months or so.
Jonesy