20 Dec
2015
20 Dec
'15
3:12 p.m.
On Sunday 20 December 2015 07:16:57 Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 12/20/2015 11:57 AM, Giuliano Colla wrote:
IMO a separate package should not be needed. To that end, if the package
asks for a pw, and gets the 1st users pw as a response, it should be
happy and run. There is little or no difference between root and 1st
user as 1st user is generally the one who originally setup the system
and should know it well.
I was not aware, until this discussion, that debian did setup a root
passwd, I had assumed that the buntu's inherited the sudo requirement
from debian. I've one other machine that is running a 14.04 lubuntu
LTS, my lappy, and you have my curiosity piqued now, so its booting.
That takes a while as it seems to be convinced it must do an fsck
everytime it boots, on a 100 gig drive. And that transition to sudo for
everything is complete, there is not a passwd hash in the /etc/shadow
file for root.
It probably needs an update session so we'll see what synaptic wants to
install. 4 new packages, 52 to be upgraded. It was last done a couple
weeks ago, so the packagers have been busy. Updates I see include bind9
and grub plus a grocery list of other stuff. A new kernel too IIRC.
So I am learning a bit, and now don't feel so crippled at having to use a
root pw for some stuff. It was actually expected if it was pure debian.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Some mill pix are at:
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene/GO704-pix>
We can all agree that Gene is got a problem, and
that it would be
nice to find a solution for his problem.
But as his problem arises from a quite unsafe setting with sudo
stuff of his ubuntuish CNC, I wouldn't like is that, in order to
solve Gene's problem, something is done which might impair safety
for everybody else, as Michele's answer might imply.
Correct. The idea is to explore a way to give the user a choice
between typing the root password or run a program with something
similar to sudo (tdesudo??).
The solution should be such that by default the root password is
required, but for those users who prefer (or have to) use sudo, an
additional package should be available to overcome the "type the root
password" problem.
Cheers
Michele