Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] What's missing in KDE 4: let's file some bugs

31 Aug 2009

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   I've filed
a bug addressing the super-size battery plasmoid without useful information:
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205707

 You're welcome to post comments or vote for it.

 While I agree with your assessment of the situation, you are lucky
 that the bug was a dupe. Your sarcasm would have been the end of the
 bug, fixed or not. Please, continue filing bugs but don't use sarcasm.
 You might want to see this bug regarding the size of the plasmoid as
 well:
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167132 
Hm, when I wrote this text yesterday I thought about the battery plasmoid
in more detail, and I came to the conclusion that it can't be meant seriously.
Therefore I thought it would be OK to write it that way. Seemingly I was
wrong in this point. Sorry.

Furthermore I'm not sure if the duplicated bug report is going into the
direction of KLaptop. Doesn't seem so. They are not discussing a steadily
progress bar. But if I would join this discussion it could get very long.
It's better for me to wait some months. Maybe in the meantime another
developer writes an alternative plasmoid addressing my issue. I think
that's more likely than fixing the default battery plasmoid.

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   Can you
check that against other tree views in KDE and either confirm
 that this is inconsistent with the rest of KDE, or that all of KDE
 needs to be improved here. Thanks!  Hm, I couldn't find another KDE application
with a tree so fast. Sorry.

 Kmail and Dolphin have tree views. 
OK, that might be. I'm not familiar with them. I'm going to test them in the
next days.

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    * moving the slider between the tree and the current
settings does not work.
  But in some cases it would be necessary.

 I do not understand, could you be more specific? Thanks.  Ah, sorry. I meant
the splitter between the tree and the current settings, marked
 in this screenshot with "Drag here":
 http://stefan.endrullis.de/kde/system-settings-drag.png

 That is an interesting issue. I have no problem dragging the splitter
 to widen the treeview. Can you check if the splitter in other apps
 does not work for you (kmail, dolphin)? 
Hm, interesting. I will test it in those apps, too.

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  As long as it is not needed I don't want to
have a horizontal scrollbar in the
 tree. That's why I would try to use the splitter to resize the tree.

 I agree, I would even prefer to see lines wrap than a horizontal
 scrollbar appearing! I filed this:
 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205780

 If you want to attach your second screenshot there, it would be great. 
Yes, of course. Thanks for the bug report.

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    But also apparently minor issues like the navigation
in trees are important
 for. Fast keyword work was always one of the key features of KDE3, I think.
 Sadly in KDE4 the possibility of keyboard navigation was completely ignored.
 Just try to save a screenhot in ksnapshot by using only the keyboard. You
 can navigate to a directory and press ENTER. Instead of changing into this
 directory, ksnapshot thinks you want to enter the dir AND save the file
 afterwards. Strange implementation! I would never expect both actions at the
 same time.  Please write a "this is what I did, this is what I expected, this
is
 what happened" format, I'll verify and file it. but make sure that you
 are on KDE 4.3 first, as it is a bit different than KDE 4.2. Thanks!  Open
ksnapshot and create a screenshot. Press "Save As", click on "Home",
and
 click on the background of the directory list. Now you can do a quick keyboard
 navigation. Enter the directory name in which you want to change. Then press
 ENTER. Normally one would expect that you only change into this directory when
 pressing ENTER. But the open dialog does not only change into the directory,
 but saves also the file in this dir afterwards. This is unintuitive. If the
 cursor / focus is in the directory list ENTER should only be used for the
 navigation in the directory tree. Only when I changed to the filename input
 field (by pressing TAB) and press ENTER I would expect the file to get saved.

 You are 100% right. I am plagiarizing your reproduction instructions here:
 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205781 
Thanks.

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 Thanks, Stefan. You really have an eye for details, please keep me
 update with them of file them! But just remember when filing that the
 devs demand a very factual style, please don't give them a reason to
 evade the bug with sarcasm. Have a great week! 
Yes, I try to get rid of my personal dislike of KDE4 and I will be more careful
when filing bugs in future.

Regards,
Stefan

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Re: [kubuntu-kde3.5-users] What's missing in KDE 4: let's file some bugs