On Friday 25 February 2022 02:07:50 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Friday 25 February 2022 11:42:40 Michael wrote:
I managed to get rid of those pesky unwelcome visitors, and imagined that I was on the way to having a machine that actually does what I want.
All of a sudden, most of my browsers will not launch at all.
Add back, one at a time, those pesky visitors.
I never did identify who or what they were, exactly, although E. Liddell seems to have tracked down one of them.
it sounded more like Gnome BS than anything TDE.
Well, it is only Gnome if I missed it somehow. I try to install only TDE, although I do rely on the xfce desktop until I get through the base system installation, and move to the TDE packages.
I keep xfce installed for troubleshooting, to see if I have problems there. I suppose I could try running those browsers in xfce to see if they'll start.
You are on a Debian derivative? If so, I have no Gnome(s), so if you'll post what packages you removed to get rid of the visitors, I’ll see if they’re installed here. (Which might bring it back on topic??????)
I went through a reinstallation of my OS, and had already pruned everything that seemed to be the cause. I believe that myself and others (thanks to E. Liddell!) traced them back to the originating processes, as much as possible. In any case, top looks normal to me now; except of course that only 2 of my 10 or so browsers will start.
Best, Michael
Since I have reinstalled my OS, the only evidence is what I posted to the mailing list. But as I recall, most of them were python3 stuff. I basically pruned back everything that I was installing, trying to add one thing at a time to get my laptop working like my desktop used to work. But moving to a different machine, which is newer, which has 64-bit architecture rather than 32-bit like my desktop, and upgrading to Devuan Chimaera, all those together mean that it's not a perfectly smooth transition to the new machine.
Uhg! Hmmm, try this? It shouldn't take too long, and doesn't make any changes to your new box.
- Download and build a MX21 Live USB. - Boot from that.
https://mxlinux.org/download-links/
Pick the kernal that's closest to what you've got installed now. (Run "inxi -S" to see what you've got now.)
In any event, MX21 should be the same base debian as your devuan, so you can run top and see it it's got the same 3 unwelcome visitors. If it does, then, hey!, they're not unwelcome :)
Best, Michael