Re: [trinity-users] is there a version of trinity that actually works

On Thursday 28 June 2012 22:18:03 Lou Gogan wrote: Where does this jibe come from? Presumably from your frustration? I have never heard R14 described as having the WOW factor. Indeed, if I had, you wouldn't see me for dust. I hate the WOW factor. I like a DE that concentrates on usability not bling. Nor is it believed to be the next greatest thing. As I understand it, there was a discussion about whether to iron the bugs out of 3.5.13 or go straight for 14. I felt that the decision was the wrong one, and so, luckily, apparently did Slàvek. But if I am not going to do things for myself, whatever the reason, I just have to accept what other people are prepared to offer. But this is Open Source. You are at liberty to rewrite bits that you don't like, as indeed am I. So I lean on people, but do not feel justified in criticising the things they do. But the problems with Ubuntu seem to be far greater than those with Debian so I solve one problem by avoiding Ubuntu. (I have always found Ubuntu too buggy for me.) In this you are wrong. The developers here give an enormous amount of time to helping individuals and working on TDE. But they have too few resources (= too little money) and not nearly enough people. I have never read the Ubuntu page, so cannot comment. Well, there are certainly working versions. I can only speak for Debian, but on Debian 6.x (Squeeze) TDE 3.5.12 runs perfectly, so far without a problem. With 3.5.13 the situation is not quite as good, but, with the addition of Slavek's repositories, runs acceptably, tho' I have hit a couple of small irritating problems, which could be bugs. I shall be bringing them to this list for help. Incidentally, the original cause of bugs being accepted on release, in my opinion, was that TDE was originally intended for Ubuntu, and tried to keep the same release pattern - i.e., after 6 months release, and then sort out the bugs if you have time while preparing the next release. We seem now to have a more stable attitude, and the developers aim to have a release more or less stable by the time they release it, and I think that Debian now probably holds the preeminent postion. Well, I would say that, wouldn't I? ;-) Anyhow, don't give up. TDE is perfectly usable and quite a few of us use it. It is doing its best to keep KDE 3.x alive and maintain its ethos. And the developers are great. I never cease to be amazed at the way they get stuck in at the coal face and help us all. This is the most friendly and helpful list I have ever been on. So far I have seen no bitching or snide remarks. So give us a chance. :-) Lisi