27 Jul
2019
27 Jul
'19
6:57 p.m.
On 2019-07-25 23:17:21 William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Thursday 25 July 2019 20:40:45 Gene Heskett wrote:
Re 1) since OpenSuSE's philosophy has always been to set and use a root
password, that has always been what I am used to.
2) Certainly TDEsu (and especially the KDE3 equivalent) used to work
seamlessly, though the last two times I installed Trinity I had to figure out
the necessary steps to defeat its Nanny treatment of the root password issue
(which presumably it has inherited from the Ubuntu philosophy).
Leslie
On Thursday 25 July 2019 16:17:27 Mike Bird
wrote:
I'm with Gene on part 1 of this question: no root password for a single
user system. I don't see any real purpose in making oneself log in as root
to perform administrative tasks; it is enough to use sudo or su, so long as
the admin is the only user, and the password is very secure. (If somebody
wants to take 20 million years to brute-force my password, go right ahead,
as it isn't written down anywhere, and it is really long, and has lots of
messy characters. Oh, and I also alternate among 4 different complex
passwords.) Of course, quantum computers will change all this, but maybe by
then we'll also have some kind of comparable quantum encryption.
However, part 2: tdesu is very useful for getting things done; and it never
makes me log in as root. To do that, you have to set up your system for
root logins, so it seems to me that you must have done this either on the
original installation (one of the questions asked by the installer), or
maybe you did it under the Trinity Control Center:
TCC / System Administration / Login Manager / Convenience / Miscellaneous /
Allow Root Login
I never clicked that box, but maybe Gene did.
Bill On Thu July 25 2019 10:51:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
No, well not intentional. Its looking, or trying to,
at /opt/trinity/lib64 but there's only a lib dir. Maybe this explains
other stuff thats wonky too. Like my index problems with kmail a couple
months back, etc etc.
This was a 32 bit install until I updated to stretch for amd64 on this
machine.
So how do I convert an uptodate r14 install from 32 bit to 64 bit?
here's the trinity.list
# Trinity repositories
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/
stretch main
deb
http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/de
bi an/ stretch main
So I don't see an amd64 spec.
gene@coyote:/etc/cron.daily$ tdesudo synaptic
tdesudo: error while loading shared libraries: libtdecore.so.14:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Hi Gene,
I have no idea how you can have TDE installed and running without
one of the most important TDE libraries. Perhaps a path problem. Meanwhile have you considered setting a root
password? Requiring
a key instead of a password for ssh root login makes sense. And
requiring sudo on systems with multiple admins with different
privilege levels makes sense. But I don't see why you are making
things hard for yourself on your systems but not having a root
password.
1. I'm the only active, warm blooded user 1000. There are of course
other "users" but most of that is just sandboxing.
And 2, debian has never been real fond of pw's for root.
Cheers, Gene Heskett