Re: [trinity-users] kdeinit!

On 2013-08-05 00:11 (GMT+0200) Jan Litwiñski composed: "Start" exactly how? It wouldn't surprise me if your problem and mine with 12.2 are related, even though I didn't "just" install TDE. It's been a problem since its installation at the end of last November (3.5.13.1). I don't recall any trouble as long as I boot straight to runlevel 5. The trouble comes with trying to exit runlevel 5 other than by rebooting or shutting down. ISTR that openSUSE has some uniqueness WRT how it initiates any WM. If I'm remembering right, there may well be something in the Trinity build and/or configuration process that needs tweaking to match and have TDM start and exit properly, probably same as KDE3 has grown to need. Not only that, there would also be differences depending on whether init is systemd or sysvinit, which in both 12.2 and 12.3 allowed a choice (sysvint is gone in 13.1). You're probably using the systemd default, while in 12.2 I'm using sysvinit. I do a lot of stopping and restarting of of Xorg. Normally I boot to runlevel 3 (which under systemd technically does not exist), then start X via startx most often, bypassing the complication of the login manager. When using the login manager, I've been in the habit for many years of using the shortcut 'init 3' to stop and 'init 5' to start. Stopping this way with TDM (or KDM3, which I have installed on several systems) is not working. This is what happens: # init 3 INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3 Boot logging started on /dev/tty3(/dev/console) at <timestamp> Master Resource Control: previous runlevel: 5, switching to runlevel: 3 Master Resource Control: Running /etc/init.d/before.local done killproc: Usage: killproc [-v] [-q] [-L] [-g|-G] [-N] [--p pid_file] [-i ingnore_file] \ [-c root] [-t<sec>] [-SIG] /full/path/to/executable killproc -l done Master Resource Control: Running /etc/init.d/after.local done Master Resource Control: runlevel 3 has been reached # Excerpts from tail of 'ps -A': PID TTY TIME CMD 1717 ? 00:00:00 kdm 1734 tty1 00:00:00 mingetty 1735 tty2 00:00:00 mingetty 1736 ? 00:00:00 login 1737 tty4 00:00:00 mingetty 1738 tty5 00:00:00 mingetty 1739 tty6 00:00:00 mingetty 1757 tty7 00:00:00 X 1766 ? 00:00:00 kdm 1767 ? 00:00:01 kdm_greet 1771 ? 00:00:00 tsak 1775 ? 00:00:00 krootimage 1778 ? 00:00:00 kwin 1781 ? 00:00:00 dcopserver 1792 ? 00:00:00 console-kit-dae 1858 ? 00:00:00 polkitd 1869 tty3 00:00:00 bash 1946 tty3 00:00:00 ps Before systemd showed up on openSUSE, init3 always terminated everything X-related. X, kwin and those kdm lines should all be gone once "runlevel 3" is reached, and maybe some others. KDE3 has the same (or very similar) problem, which I reported against 12.2 last fall but has gotten zero traction: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783862 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/