20 Jun
2018
20 Jun
'18
3:31 a.m.
On Tuesday 19 June 2018 17:31:18 Felix Miata wrote:
William Morder composed on 2018-06-19 15:52
(UTC-0700):
I would like to debate you just to show that you don't know what you are
talking about, either in religion or science (since history of religion and
comparative mythology is my background). However, I do agree about the
endless off-topic posts.
Also, as I said, I don't feel the need to try to prove or disprove anything,
as it will not actually convince you of anything, except what you already
believe. But I am quite content to allow you to keep on believing whatever
you like, so long as you don't try to convert me to your own beliefs.
On the other hand, as I pointed out, trying to force other people into a rigid
regime will only destroy us all. I think people here are just letting off
steam; and anyway, when we go off-topic, it is usually confined to a single
thread. Others tend to stick to the topic.
Maybe we can all agree to be civil and polite, if not always to agree? I would
hate to imagine that we cannot find some way to get along without the help of
moderators or policing.
Maybe somebody can just cry "uncle"?
Bill
Felix Miata wrote:
It's not a versus. Evolution IS a religion:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t
...
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed
upon by a number of persons or sects:...
"Evolution", as taught, is not subject to proof. As taught it's all based
on theories, aka beliefs. Micro-evolution is without question real and
provable, but micro-evolution is not taught as distinguishable from the
other 6 types of unprovable evolution, such as that which says dinosaurs
and man did not coexist. Technically, it's arguably true that dinosaurs
didn't, because "dinosaur" is a word originally created during the 19th
century. Before then, the creatures since referred to as dinosaurs were
called dragons, and there has been found much art on the walls of caves and
elsewhere created many tens of centuries ago that indicate man was
interacting with living dragons.
Gene Heskett composed on 2018-06-10 23:25
(UTC-0400):
I believe it's fine for us to express our opinions on subjects about
which we disagree in our individual ways. However, if we start to debate
evolution versus religion, Evolution has changed almost everything on this
planet in the last 70
million years, including us.
"Evolution" as taught in public schools and universities is 6/7
religion, 1/7 science. http://www.ep.tc/problems/59/ is a relatively
short 1974 comic that explains without fractions.
Evolution as taught has 7 meanings, only one of which is proven science.
The rest is entirely based on faith in various theories that have not
been and almost certainly will not ever be proven. More at
http://www.icr.org/ and elsewhere. then I think (or maybe, I believe) that we need
to start
another thread, if not indeed a separate forum, list, or whatever.
One of my reasons to reply was to highlight the unending inane off-topic
threads about coffee, chocolate & dinosaurs polluting this list and its
archive. If dinosaurs are OK, then anything should go. I'd like to see OT
stuff keep to a minimum or less.