8 Sep
2020
8 Sep
'20
3:39 a.m.
On Monday 07 September 2020 17:05:37 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 08 of September 2020 00:45:27 Steven
D'Aprano via tde-users
wrote:
Hi,
I need to clarify the information a bit.
The 293 comments are not something Bill has caused in bulk recently, but
the total number of comments in a single thread that began in February
2018 and was confused by the fact that several other threads were started
inside that thread that were completely unrelated to the original. This is
because instead of sending a completely new message, the "initial" message
of the new thread was created in response to an old message from an
unrelated thread.
You can see the mentioned thread here:
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskt
op.org/thread/TSER4NCDKV6WC6ITTFOLKOZWWAVC3VFZ/
Note that inside the thread "I just resubscribed,..." you can find other
threads like:
+ tips on getting TDE to run smoothly
+ how to enable mouse keys by default or command-line?
+ quick & dirty - installation & backup
+ my vanishing root partition
+ my rebellious lower panel
+ can burn DVDs but not CDs
+ a perfectly good system shot to hell
+ network problems in Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged
+ LTS has less security
+ system colors & permission problems
+ Brother printer - comments?
+ aptoncd rejects tde-trinity pkgs
+ pulseaudio conflicts with my TDE
+ antiX - debian-based distro - no systemd
+ how to restore/reconfigure lost wireless connection?
+ how to re-index Kmail
+ wireless interface not recognized on boot
+ chat clients - cannot connect
+ Devuan netinstall with TDE as option?
+ ...and some more until recently ...
+ ksystraycmd & panel hiding
+ network-manager-tde - dependency issues
+ how to get tdenetworkmanager - with no wicd ?
I assume that from this example it is clear what is the subject of the said
mess. Of course, adding a "SOLVED" or extending a subject is not a problem
as long as it's still the same related thread.
This problem was not visible on the old mailing list archive, because the
threads were not followed thoroughly and, above all, they were not
followed beyond the edges of the months.
The new archive can track threads in detail. Therefore, a thread emerged
here, which began in 2018 and was confused in this way.
Therefore, it is a good idea to follow a simple rule that a new thread must
start as a new message, not in response to some unrelated message in which
the subject and content will be replaced.
Cheers
Sorry to "out" you, Slavek! I was only trying to play nice.
Best thing is if we can start out the new mailing list on the right foot.
Bill
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On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 02:46:58PM -0700, William
Morder via tde-users
wrote:
So the
short version is: only hit reply if you intend to keep the
topic within the thread.
If we go off-topic, then we ought to create a brand-new email, not
just hit replay; otherwise, we drag email addresses and related
threads upon threads in, and we end up with 293 comments (I hear, but
haven't seen them myself).
How is that possible? If you change the subject line of an email, how
does that cause rejected emails to suddenly be re-sent (as you say
happened to you).
Where are these 293 comments being dragged in from?
It is not practical to demand that subject lines never be changed.
Different mailers have different conventions for whether they use "Re"
or something else when replying, and sometimes due to topic drift the
right thing to do is to change the subject line. For example, adding
"SOLVED" to a problem once it is solved.
We should start a new thread for entirely unrelated and new topics, but
we should rename a sub-thread once it has drifted away from the original
topic. For example:
TDE is awesome
+-- Re: TDE is awesome
+-- Re: TDE is awesome
| +-- Re: TDE is awesome
|
| | +-- Now with even more awesomeness [was TDE is awesome]
| | +-- Re: Now with even more awesomeness
|
| +-- Re: TDE is awesome
+-- Re: TDE is awesome