19 Mar
2018
19 Mar
'18
12:53 a.m.
On Sunday 18 March 2018 16:22:26 wofgdkncxojef(a)gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 18 March 2018 08:57:56 William Morder
wrote:
At least I had the decency to change the heading. This thread started out
talking about something perfectly Trinity.
If I am to be spanked, though, please be gentle; or we need more beautiful
women to be hired as mods. (I don't notice any women in any of the postings
here.) Also, other people started complaining about their health issues; I
was just trying to help, because if they're not healthy enough to work at
their computers, then this is bad for Trinity.
So you see, we did it for the good of the group.
On Sunday 18 March 2018 00:43:45 Felix Miata
wrote:
Yes, all this are very relevant to trinity -_-
the mods should spank you :P
William Morder composed on 2018-03-17 07:42
(UTC-0700):
I have been trying out a very old method that seems to be coming back:
fasting, but modified according to my own life and limitations. Not an
absolute fast, but most days I find I can live quite contentedly on raw
fruits and vegetables, and maybe a little bread. (I bake my own whole
grain sourdough.) If I crave protein, there are always non-meat sources,
like beans, legumes, nuts, and so on.
All those ancient sages who went off to live in the wilderness, absorbed
in meditation and fasting, and then lived to 90 or 100 years: maybe they
were on to something. There were a couple shows on PBS about this
so-called fasting diet; but like I said, it is only reducing calorie
intake for most of the week (maybe 4 or 5 days) then having real meals on
the other two days.
Long ago I read a book, *Diet for a Small Planet*, by Frances Moore Lappe
(I think there's an accent in her last name). Beans and whole grain rice,
for example, make a complete protein; the same for other combinations,
like hummus and pita bread, or even peanut butter and whole grain bread
(although not so much protein in peanut butter by itself). I'm not a
vegetarian, but I try to cut back on the meat.
Then a couple times a week, I have a bigger meal, with actual meat. I
avoid fried foods, don't smoke, and generally eat pretty healthy. My only
real vice is coffee, so I splurge and make sure it's really good coffee.
My problem is how to get exercise while living in a part of the city that
is all concrete. If I just got more exercise, I think I would be doing
great, but my circumstances are not good. Still, everything changes, and
things are slowly getting better again.
Bill Also, drink lots of water, and eat fresh fruit. I
got that from
somebody long ago who lost something like 200 lbs, and it does work.
But then, I need to get with it myself again.
I was past 60 when I lost 24% of my body weight in 16 months purely by
smart food shopping. That was over 3 years ago and I haven't gained any
back. When you don't have what you shouldn't eat, you eat what you
should, or nothing.
I used what and how to eat recommendations from the following who
either wrote books or have web sites or both:
Don Colbert MD
Joel Fuhrman MD
Steven Pratt MD
Dr Mark Hyman
Dr Steven Masley
Dr David Perlmutter
Dr Daniel G Amen
Some of these show up on PBS and/or TBN TV occasionally, which is how I
was originally exposed to 6 of those 7. I didn't bother to read all the previous stuff
But i'll mention complications with losing weight...
When the body lacks energy, and needs it fast
it will burn MUSCLE!!!!
it burns fat slowly....
When you exercise, you DON'T try to lose calories
You try to build muscle,
this way your metabolism at rest increases
and burn fat faster.
When exercising, you take extra sugar to avoid burning muscle
You can tell if you burned muscle, your piss has a chemical smells
(ammonia/urea)
Also, if you are very fat. The body will detect that you lost say.... 20
kilos, it will try to resist, because it thinks you are dying. You should
be losing large weights in smaller increments with some time between the
increments, so that the body consider the new weight as normal.... And
also, you should be psychologically fine (not depressed).
In short:
cut all fats
take sugar only when you need to give physical effort
eat plenty of proteins and vegetables.
exercise to build muscles, short bursts of lots of force(body building,
lift weights, pushups , don't use the elevator etc...).
Losing weight just by dieting is too difficult....
Don't lose more then 1 kg a week.
If you are really very fat, do it in small increments.
All this is good advice, but the main thing is just to do it.
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