On Saturday 19 December 2015 03:33:17 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett:
On Saturday 19 December 2015 02:42:50 Dr.
Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Gene!
Where's the problem of giving root a password?
nik
The last time I did that, somewhere along about the time of fedora
2, it destroyed sudo, and I then rebooted single and nuked it,
expecting sudo to come back, but it didn't so reinstall time. I was
sick of being Red Hat's lab rat always suffering from some redhat
experiment you couldn't get fixed, so I used my lappy to pull and
burn the cd and bailed to mandrake, then pclos for a while, but it
wasn't at all compatible with linuxcnc, so I finally went with
wheezy for transparent compatibility. In that regard it has been
truly excellent since the latest LCNC is wheezy based.
Thank deity I had already setup a decent backup (amanda), so the
transistions between distro's, while not painless, has not cost me a
lot of data in the long view.
However, since they want sudo to be used, leaving root
passwordless, I am not fussy as long as it works. But I am not going
to set a root PW if its going to screw up the rest of the stuff that
expects sudo to work.
Hi Gene!
There are no side effects in setting a root password. In fact, there
is already a root password, but it's useless for the user.
If you want to try:
$ sudo bash
# cp /etc/shadow /root/
# passwd
Which from a very dim recall at this late date, is not how I did it
before. And this time it appears to be working well, no surprises.
Now I just have to remember to try the root pw if mine doesn't work. Both
are long enough that typu's can be a problem. But roots is like 16
characters longer. As it should be.
Thanks Nik.
If you have sideffects using sudo, you can always do:
$ su
# cp /root/shadow /etc/
Nik
> > Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> > > On Saturday 19 December 2015 01:52:46 Michele Calgaro wrote:
> > > > On 12/17/2015 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Greetings;
> > > > >
> > > > > Out of curiosity, I tried to run ksysv from the tde menu.
> > > > > Can't. If insists on a root pw that does not exist on this
> > > > > debian wheezy install. A sudo -i in a konsole for me, and it
> > > > > runs just fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > This really ought to be fixed. No biggie for me, but...
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > >
> > > > No issues here (Debian/Stretch) with ksysv. Just typed in the
> > > > root password and it worked flawlessly. The fact that ksysv
> > > > requires root password is not surprising since you are playing
> > > > with the system config. Cheers
> > > > Michele
> > >
> > > You missed the point, it demands a root pw, that on this wheezy
> > > system, does not exist, so it cannot be launched from the menu
> > > entry by any pw entered. The pw used for doing a sudo is not
> > > accepted. That was my point.
> > >
> > > Don't put it in the menu's at all if the user cannot use his
> > > sudo to get the root rights it needs.
> > >
> > > I am used to defeating petty attempts to mold linux networking
> > > to someones idea of consistency, but which is an abject failure
> > > where one's home network, all behind a good router, is all based
> > > on the common to all machines /etc/hosts file, with a locally
> > > carved in granite hostname per machine. Turning network-mangler
> > > loose in that environment is a no networking disaster, so the
> > > first thing you have to do on the install reboot, is sudo -i,
> > > make the entry's for that machine
> > > in /etc/network/interfaces, chmod +i that file, then nuke the
> > > link and make a real /etc/resolv.conf, and chmod +i that. If
> > > udev hasn't played with things and moved eth0 to something else,
> > > thats it. Your networking Just Works(TM) Then at your leasure
> > > you can uninstall network-mangler. No use of its burning cpu
> > > cycles trying to tear down what you just made immutible.
> > >
> > > Network-mangler might be of use in the situation where the
> > > machine is connected directly to the access modem. Thats for
> > > folks who do not understand the need for an isolating, natting,
> > > 20 hungry pit-bull guard dogs for a firewall, router. Without
> > > that, a windows box is owned 30 seconds after the cat5 is
> > > plugged in. The linux box is at risk but its lower. I haven't
> > > worried about that since I discovered dd-wrt, which can be
> > > reflashed into the better routers. To me, its a transparent
> > > gateway to the net. To the net, if no port forwarding is being
> > > done, its a cable with an address with nothing on the other end
> > > of it.
> > >
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