On Thursday 10 April 2025 09:52:22 Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
I am creating a build script environment for Slackware. Something in the tradition of stock and SBo build scripts for those who know what that means.
Debian seems overwhelmingly supported in TDE. To help me learn I want to create a Debian VM where I can download and study package sources and build scripts.
One caveat is the Debian distro needs to NOT support systemd because Slackware does not. I need something reasonably close to how Slackware functions.
I tried q4os but I did not like and their custom control center thingie frustrated me and gets in my way. And I want something generic with no systemd.
Something straightforward. Install the ISO, configure apt sources, install TDE.
Please recommend. I am guessing a plain Devuan ISO might suffice?
Thank you.
You want Devuan, the non-systemd fork of Debian. I myself, Nik, and a few others on the list, are Devuan users.
There are, by the way, many different flavors of Devuan: for example, Heads, which is the non-systemd version of Tails; or Exegnulinux, which I think Nik uses, and a few other distros listed on their site.
I use plain old vanilla Devuan, which, in my view, is more true to the original Debian than Debian itself. But then, we are each entitled to our own poison.
Bill
P.S. some links to start devuan releases - downloads https://beta.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros https://beta.devuan.org/get-devuan
https://www.devuan.org/os/releases https://beta.devuan.org/os/releases https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/ https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/installer-iso/ https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/desktop-live/ https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/minimal-live/
From here you can probably find your own way. Hope this helps.
Bill
P.P.S. for your sources.list
I just copied all the links from my own notes, to save you a little time. All the links are commented out here, so you must uncomment the links you want to use. I don't use onion links here, as they don't seem to work so well. Also I prefer the pkgmaster links over devuan.org, as this works better for me.
# deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 5.0 (daedalus) amd64
# https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html # https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5215 # https://www.devuan.org/os/packages
#deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus main #deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus main
#deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-updates main #deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-security main #deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-security main
##deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus experimental ##deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus experimental
#deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-backports main #deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main #deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
##deb http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged experimental main ##deb-src http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged experimental main
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus main
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-updates main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-security main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-security main
##deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus experimental ##deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus experimental
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-backports main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged experimental main #deb-src tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged experimental main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental main #deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
##deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental main ##deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental main
# daedalus-updates, previously known as 'volatile' #deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus backports main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus backports main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus contrib #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus contrib
#deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus non-free #deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus non-free