On Thursday 10 April 2025 09:52:22 Darrell Anderson via tde-users wrote:
I am creating a build script environment for
Slackware. Something in the
tradition of stock and SBo build scripts for those who know what that
means.
Debian seems overwhelmingly supported in TDE. To help me learn I want to
create a Debian VM where I can download and study package sources and
build scripts.
One caveat is the Debian distro needs to NOT support systemd because
Slackware does not. I need something reasonably close to how Slackware
functions.
I tried q4os but I did not like and their custom control center thingie
frustrated me and gets in my way. And I want something generic with no
systemd.
Something straightforward. Install the ISO, configure apt sources,
install TDE.
Please recommend. I am guessing a plain Devuan ISO might suffice?
Thank you.
You want Devuan, the non-systemd fork of Debian. I myself, Nik, and a few
others on the list, are Devuan users.
There are, by the way, many different flavors of Devuan: for example, Heads,
which is the non-systemd version of Tails; or Exegnulinux, which I think Nik
uses, and a few other distros listed on their site.
I use plain old vanilla Devuan, which, in my view, is more true to the
original Debian than Debian itself. But then, we are each entitled to our own
poison.
Bill
P.S. some links to start
devuan releases - downloads
https://beta.devuan.org/os/devuan-distros
https://beta.devuan.org/get-devuan
https://www.devuan.org/os/releases
https://beta.devuan.org/os/releases
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/installer-iso/
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/desktop-live/
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/minimal-live/
From here you can probably find your own way. Hope this helps.
Bill
P.P.S. for your sources.list
I just copied all the links from my own notes, to save you a little time. All
the links are commented out here, so you must uncomment the links you want to
use. I don't use onion links here, as they don't seem to work so well. Also I
prefer the pkgmaster links over
devuan.org, as this works better for me.
# deb cdrom:[Devuan GNU/Linux 5.0 (daedalus) amd64
#
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html
#
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5215
#
https://www.devuan.org/os/packages
#deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus main
#deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus main
#deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-updates main
#deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-updates main
#deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-security main
#deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-security main
##deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus experimental
##deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus experimental
#deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-backports main
#deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-backports main
#deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-proposed-updates main
##deb
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
experimental main
##deb-src
http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
experimental main
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus main
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-updates main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-updates main
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-security main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-security main
##deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus experimental
##deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus experimental
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-backports main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-backports main
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
experimental main
#deb-src
tor+http://devuanauxrkggcowgm2vcs6go3c5pgxdidd5wqjpg7zpfaxkmgspr6id.onion/merged
experimental main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb
http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental main
#deb-src
http://deb.devuan.org/devuan experimental main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main
##deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental main
##deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged experimental main
# daedalus-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus backports main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus backports main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus contrib
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus contrib
#deb
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus non-free
#deb-src
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus non-free