On Saturday 19 December 2015 10:16:51 Michele Calgaro wrote:
On 12/19/2015 02:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Your idea of the word majority is miss-applied in
the modern linux
world. Root password usage is pretty well deprecated by most
distro's today, using sudo instead, even in wheezy which is
considered elderly these days.
You are probably right on this, I agree. Now I see the point you were
trying to make. I will discuss with Slavek, see what he thinks too.
Cheers
Michele
I should also add that synaptic is in this same boat, and that until I
discovered synaptic-pkexec from a cli, which uses sudo to get its
rights, I was locked out of using the best package manager ever.
update-manager is nice, and it runs well with a sudo, but it cannot add
a new package one might need. adept, with its fugly ncurses gui that is
so easily destroyed, could probably be used by someone familiar with the
ncurses idiosynchrocies I suppose, but ncurses has had 20 years to grow
a screen refresh and hasn't done it yet. mc, if ncurses grew a screen
refresh would be hands down the best file manager ever. krusader looks
nice, but is impotent. As it is, the only way to refresh mc is to quit
it and restart it.
That leaves synaptic as a universal package manager, which because of its
x integration cannot be run as root (can't access the display as root)
but sudo the pkexec wrapper and its beautifull. And I just edited the
menu item so it can be run from the menu. Except it doesn't run at all
now, and logs no errors. But it still works from the cli. Take out the
single quotes the editor so helpfully added, and it runs, but takes the
newly added root pw. Can we get any more confused? Doubtful.
There are no doubt several other "system set it once and forget it"
things, but those are a few of the things that bug me weekly if not more
often.
Thanks Michele
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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