On Monday 04 October 2021 07:55:52 Michael wrote:
On Sunday 03 October 2021 10:59:25 pm Felix Miata wrote:
IMO: Rethink your aversion to systemd. Eventually you'll run into software you simply cannot use because it depends on some part of the growing systemd monolith. All the major distros have switched to systemd. Those that don't are increasingly relying on kludges and a growing amount of forking upstream to keep going.
If you expect to live more than 10 more years, you might as well go mainstream sooner than later.
The irony of your arguments Felix is it is the same argument KDE4 people made to those who switched to TDE. Especially the, “If you expect to live more than 10 more years,” since TDE recently celebrated its 10 year birthday…
Michael
Myself, I plan to live for ever, but I hope never to be forced into using systemd; or to do anything else, or to use any software or machine, that does not respect my wishes. I want my machine to do what I want, not for me to have to obey my machine.
When I used Debian and systemd, I always had strange problems that I could not resolve easily, but as soon as I switched to Devuan, my life got much less complicated.
No doubt Felix (and others who run Debian other systemd distros) have had better experiences. Otherwise they wouldn't stick with it. I may change my mind in the future, but I doubt it.
If it does come down to something like an ultimatum (i.e., use systemd or else!), then I will use the standard exemption that it goes against my religion. So now I need to find some religion or deeply-held philosophical belief or spiritual practice that will justify my rejection of non-GNU/Linux and other software that I find objectionable.
Top of my list so far are the Amish, Luddites and anarcho-primitivism. However these would require big changes in my life, so I hesitate to commit myself to any single path. Or I could just keep things simple, and run Devuan.
Bill