On Monday 04 October 2021 07:55:52 Michael wrote:
On Sunday 03 October 2021 10:59:25 pm Felix Miata
wrote:
IMO: Rethink your aversion to systemd. Eventually
you'll run into
software you simply cannot use because it depends on some part of the
growing systemd monolith. All the major distros have switched to systemd.
Those that don't are increasingly relying on kludges and a growing amount
of forking upstream to keep going.
If you expect to live more than 10 more years, you might as well go
mainstream sooner than later.
The irony of your arguments Felix is it is the same argument KDE4 people
made to those who switched to TDE. Especially the, “If you expect to live
more than 10 more years,” since TDE recently celebrated its 10 year
birthday…
Michael
Myself, I plan to live for ever, but I hope never to be forced into using
systemd; or to do anything else, or to use any software or machine, that does
not respect my wishes. I want my machine to do what I want, not for me to
have to obey my machine.
When I used Debian and systemd, I always had strange problems that I could not
resolve easily, but as soon as I switched to Devuan, my life got much less
complicated.
No doubt Felix (and others who run Debian other systemd distros) have had
better experiences. Otherwise they wouldn't stick with it. I may change my
mind in the future, but I doubt it.
If it does come down to something like an ultimatum (i.e., use systemd or
else!), then I will use the standard exemption that it goes against my
religion. So now I need to find some religion or deeply-held philosophical
belief or spiritual practice that will justify my rejection of non-GNU/Linux
and other software that I find objectionable.
Top of my list so far are the Amish, Luddites and anarcho-primitivism. However
these would require big changes in my life, so I hesitate to commit myself to
any single path. Or I could just keep things simple, and run Devuan.
Bill