On Monday 05 October 2020 14:36:37 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 05 of October 2020 21:40:08 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 04 October 2020 11:58:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 4 Oct 11:52:09 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
Now that I checked my own sources.list, it occurred to me to try an upgrade, and there are lots of new Trinity packages available. However, many of these are language packs that I don't really need:
SNIP - see previous posts for the whole list
Is there any way to upgrade without also downloading ALL of these?!?! I am pretty sure I did not install earlier versions of these packages.
IMO this should not happen. Can't you uninstall them?
Nik
So ... to add the question to my own non-answer: Are all those language packs, by some chance, included as part of some other packages or metapackages, or whatever?
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The real question is, How did they get installed in the first place? Assuming that I didn't just go temporarily blind and miss something so obvious, then the next most likely possibility is that they get installed as dependencies for other items, or that they are part of a metapackage. Can anybody answer this question? as I would prefer not to install these or other unwanted packages.
Bill
Are you up to some investigation?
fgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude /var/log/apt/history.log zfgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude*gz /var/log/apt/history.log*gz
That should help to figure out when it was installed.
Nik
The grep commands yield no pertinent information, so far as I can tell. For one thing, I don't use aptitude, but always apt-get. However, I modified the commands, (hopefully) to include apt-get and apt, and still get nothing except that I have purged them already; no log of having installed them.
WTF?!?!
Hi Bill,
these packages certainly do not install automatically, without user intervention. The only dependency is that the tde-trinity metapackage has the symbolic name "tde-i18n-trinity" (virtual package) set as Suggests (less weight than Recommends), which fills all of these language packages.
Only hard dependencies would get installed in my system, no suggests or recommends.
However, as I mentioned, there would be a necessary collaboration from the user to choose to install this virtual package name.
Cheers
Thanks for your responses, both Nik and Slavek. However, I am still puzzled, to say the least. Not that it's a critical problem, but I do like to know when and why weird things like this occur.
Also, I will concede the possibiity of human error on my part, and that somehow this user interacted in a manner that I must have agreed to their installation. And yet, I believe I would have remembered such a long list of language packs.
In the past, I have been guilty of errors or mistakes; for example, 16 April 1964, and one earlier than that, in February of 1958. Since then, however, I have been more vigilant.
Bill
Bill