5 Oct
2020
5 Oct
'20
10:40 p.m.
On Monday 05 October 2020 14:36:37 Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 05 of October 2020 21:40:08 William Morder
via tde-users wrote:
> On Sunday 04 October 2020 11:58:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 4 Oct 11:52:09 -0700
> >
> > William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> > > Now that I checked my own sources.list, it occurred to me to try an
> > > upgrade, and there are lots of new Trinity packages available.
> > > However, many of these are language packs that I don't really need:
> > >
SNIP - see previous posts for the whole list
> > >
> > > Is there any way to upgrade without also downloading ALL of
> > > these?!?! I am pretty sure I did not install earlier versions of
> > > these packages.
> >
> > IMO this should not happen. Can't you uninstall them?
> >
> Nik
> > > So ... to add the question to my own non-answer:
Are all those language
> packs, by some chance, included as part of some other packages or
> metapackages, or whatever?
>
snip
The real
question is, How did they get installed in the first place?
Assuming that I didn't just go temporarily blind and miss something so
obvious, then the next most likely possibility is that they get
installed as dependencies for other items, or that they are part of a
metapackage. Can anybody answer this question? as I would prefer not to
install these or other unwanted packages.
Bill
> Are you up to some investigation?
fgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude
/var/log/apt/history.log
zfgrep tde-i18n-af-trinity /var/log/aptitude*gz /var/log/apt/history.log*gz
> That should help to figure out when it was
installed.
> Nik
The grep commands yield no pertinent information, so far as I can tell. For
one thing, I don't use aptitude, but always apt-get. However, I modified the
commands, (hopefully) to include apt-get and apt, and still get nothing
except that I have purged them already; no log of having installed them.
WTF?!?!
Hi Bill,
these packages certainly do not install automatically, without user
intervention. The only dependency is that the tde-trinity metapackage has
the symbolic name "tde-i18n-trinity" (virtual package) set as Suggests
(less weight than Recommends), which fills all of these language packages.
Only hard dependencies would get installed in my system, no suggests or
recommends.
However, as I mentioned, there would be a necessary
collaboration from the
user to choose to install this virtual package name.
Cheers
Thanks for your responses, both Nik and Slavek. However, I am still puzzled,
to say the least. Not that it's a critical problem, but I do like to know
when and why weird things like this occur.
Also, I will concede the possibiity of human error on my part, and that
somehow this user interacted in a manner that I must have agreed to their
installation. And yet, I believe I would have remembered such a long list of
language packs.
In the past, I have been guilty of errors or mistakes; for example, 16 April
1964, and one earlier than that, in February of 1958. Since then, however, I
have been more vigilant.
Bill
Bill