4 Sep
2020
4 Sep
'20
10:16 a.m.
On Friday 04 September 2020 00:13:19 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 4 Sep 01:39:16 -0500
J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
Stop with your siren songs about BSD land! I cannot afford to get another
computer, just so I can run a test machine and learn BSD. Not yet, anyway.
Bill
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On 2020-09-04 01:07:15 William Morder via
trinity-users wrote:
Stay away anything systemd and GNOME if you want a quiet living. or a linux
beginner it's hard to understand, as that thing is "just" svchost from
windows, sowhat could be wrong with that? That raises the question, why run
from M$ if the pholosophy of M$ is acceptale?
A beginner always has problems. There is no easy way. So just start as
everybody else, get ditro hopping for some months, see what you like. A lot
of people do not like "choice", they need "guidance". Those better
stay
with M$ or the "big distros where you cannot go wrong". Control freaks
sooner or later end some place else. Some even set sail and leave linux
world for the rough coasts of BSD land - and find it quite comfy there :)
Nik
On Thursday 03 September 2020 20:55:40 J Leslie
Turriff wrote:
So, none of the ones in the ubuntu group? My impression is that that's
the primary platform the developers work with, and ought to be most
stable? Poking around on the internet, I see that focal is the latest LTS
one. I don't much like the password restrictions on Q4OS, and he does
have several additional drives that would need mounting from time to
time, so AntiX doesn't sound so good either. On 2020-09-03 22:41:23 Michael wrote:
> On Thursday 03 September 2020 09:59:50 pm J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > My brother, a long-time windoze user, suggested to me last night
> > that he might give Linux a try. Looking at the Trinity website,
> > I see a plethora of Live Disk images for various distros
> > available; but which one is most likely to give him a stable and
> > versatile experience? He is already somewhat skeptical, having
> > seen my occasional struggles with multimedia issues on my
> > OpenSuSE machine*. (This opportunity will also give me some
> > exposure to Debian-based distros, a probable plus.)
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> > * (OpenSuSE does not seem to think that multimedia is important,
> > and its support is somewhat sketchy compared with home-computer
> > oriented distros).
>
> MX Linux
> https://mxlinux.org/
>
> Huge dev team that has made it a really easy user experience. It's
> very easy to build a Live USB (Xfce). And the MX Package Installer
> simplifies adding many popular applications. TDE can be added to
> the MXPI
>
> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/MX_Linux_Trinity_Repository_Install
>atio n_ In structions
>
> If you're interested, I'll ask in the MX forum what the steps would
> be to add TDE to their Live USB.
>
> Best,
> Michael
Well, I was really looking to use one of the ready-made Trinity
ISOs. It looks like maybe focal is the latest one? (This business of
names instead of release numbers isn't very friendly IMO.) Is it
reasonably stable? I don't want this windoze user to have a bad
experience.
Leslie
Offhand -- and, keeping in mind that your intended audience is a total
noobie -- not only a Linux virgin, but also somebody who would never be
able to sort through some of the issues we discuss here (my recent
networking issues come to mind, or discussions of TDE with at least a
half-dozen different OSs -- then I would say [here he pauses for
effect], only a couple ready-made TDE Linux discs stand out.
AntiX worked quite well, was lightweight, ready from first boot for a
new user. It wouldn't be my own choice, because it did some weird
things with permissions inside my home folder. Also, it seemed designed
for laptop users, and I found it difficult to create custom mount
points for my internal hard drives. But for somebody who just wants to
get used to running Linux, and to be able to run a good desktop, I
would pick this for my #1.
Q4OS (I think I got that name right). Again, all the basic ingredients
were there, for a first-time Linux user, with the bonus of a good
desktop. What I didn't like was almost from the start: I couldn't
create my passwords by using weird characters; this distro would only
accept alphanumeric passwords. Maybe, if I gave it more of a chance, I
would have discovered that it could be changed or circumvented; but I
was right away put off.
All the others that I've tried so far don't deliver the experience;
which is, we would want the user to keep using it, rather than giving
up in despair. (And I might have missed a few good ones that are out
there, since I haven't been actively looking at new distros, now that I
have what I want.)
As I say, not what I would choose for myself; but what I believe would
keep a new user using Linux and TDE.
Bill