6 Aug
2017
6 Aug
'17
10:33 p.m.
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017, Felix Miata wrote:
now I get:
resolution: 96x96 dots per inch
dimensions: 3200x1800 pixels (846x476 mm)
why the difference? well, the terminal screen you get after shutting
down X is really, really tiny and evidently, in one of my attempts to
do something, I deleted /home/davisf! quite shocked when I couldn't
log back in.
luckily, it's a 'virgin' system so no loss. I adduser dummy, deluser
davisf and then adduser davisf and was back.
I reinstalled (apt-get) gdm and was able to log into Debian Desktop
Environment fine; its dimensions were ok (as before).
I then purged tde/tdm and installed again (apt-get). logged in ok with
the usual font problems. then I punched around rather unsystematically
trying different font sizes and also using 'GTK Styles and Fonts'; did
a liberal dosage of 'about:config' in Firefox and fooling with kicker
or whatever it's called.
I wish I had taken more careful note because inevitably I will have to
reproduce it all sometime. but the result is a pretty decent desktop.
here is what I still am unhappy with:
(a) though I can change most of the fonts in Pan, I cannot change the
menu fonts; same for LibreOffice. I still need to get Apache Office up
to see what it does.
(b) if I kill X or boot into terminal, I get that teensy-weensy font
on the terminal. I recall you discussing some kernel fixes for
this....
if I could only find where the magic is for GTK config files. I do
have
.gtkrc-2.0.kde4
.gtkrc-2.0.kde-kde4
.config/gtk-3.0
if I only know what recipes to cook with.
I have to run out now so will respond to a couple of points you made a
bit later but wanted to get out this report.
f.
That's about as close as Xorg ever gets to accurate. My calculator says a 13.3"
screen should measure 294.44 by 165.62. Is that the result of using DisplaySize
in xorg.conf set to manufacturer's screen size specifications?
--
Felmon Davis
Time and tide wait for no man.
Felmon Davis composed on 2017-08-05 00:37 (UTC-0400):
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> I've made a little progress but let me give you some results:
> xrdb yields dpi = 120
I have some new results to share.
before:
xdpyinfo
yields:
3200x1800 pixels (270x216 millimeters)
Peculiar. 270x216 is a 1.25/1 ratio, 5/4,
normally only seen with 1280x1024
resolution displays. 216 is a tad taller than that of a 1920x1080 17" screen.
resolution 301x212 dots per inch
A bizarre ratio: 1.42:1. however:
your website yields what seem to me correct
values except for dpi. it
DPI and default font px size reporting require you let the scripts run.
seems not to capture the dpi values at all but
maybe I misinterpret:
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--R0Wp8z2MkaTVtNmZ0TnRPNjg/view?usp=sharing>
Interesting. Screen totals are correctly reported. Available and Viewport show
exactly the values expected for a somewhat common screen size of 2560x1440. I
have to wonder how you managed to get a Konq window to open at that size on a
3200x1800 screen. Odds must be astronomical that it happened by accident.
I've commented out HorizSync and VertRefresh
though I did run
hwinfo
--monitor | grep -A6 'river Inf'
and it says "Size: 293x165 mm" so there's some data (or there're some
data) and a couple of
incongruities.
I'll stop here and talk about the progress I
alluded to earlier.
I think I have kde apps in ok shape by fooling
with fonts and
setting fonts to
System Settings
120 dpi
what doesn't work is management of
LibreOffice, Firefox, the intro
display for Trinity Control Center and various apps which I think are
GTK (and then there's that grotesquely large login page).
I don't see exegnu on DistroWatch, so without it installed, or more information
on its web site than I've seen, I don't know if GTK3 is installed or what
toolkit your LO or FF packages are built using. It looks like GTK apps are just
not capable of reasonably responding to a display of such high DPI on exegnu, or
maybe without being run in Gnome or Mate or other GTK DE or absent some unusual
manual gtk configuration or additional package support. Your inability to find
any gtk*3* packages installed is somewhat puzzling. A distro released only late
last year ought to be providing at least basic GTK3 support.
I'll be installing Apache Office which I
prefer but suspect it will
have the same problem as LO.
it seems to me I have to fuss with GTK.
Maybe searching in OO or LO forums for HiDPI discussions would prove fruitful.
Maybe we need to have a look at your xorg.conf if you're still using it.
At least let's see Xorg.0.log generated by the best configuration you've come up
with so far, with or without an xorg.conf.
or I may follow your advice below and alter the
display mode. that's > for tomorrow or the next day.
...
I may return the laptop.
Assuming running at lower than native resolution won't be acceptable to you,
that sounds like a good idea, unless you have really really good young eyes and
better tolerance for things tiny than the existence of this thread suggests. It
seems something in some software component, or maybe more than one, is just too
broken for working on a 276 physical DPI screen.
Is Windows still on it? What are its display/screen and font settings?