29 Jun
2021
29 Jun
'21
11:46 p.m.
On Tuesday 29 of June 2021 20:34:27 Hunter via tde-users wrote:
Good morning everybody =)
I'd like to ask, does anyone *actually* use Konqueror to regularly
browse the internet? I have used no better file manager than Konqueror
but the web aspect seems to be hindered. I don't think its a fault of
Konqueror itself but the way web design has changed. You can test this
yourself by using wiby.me (an early web design search engine) and
looking at sites indexed on it. These usually display fine in Konqueror,
but when you go to a modern website like DuckDuckGo for example it
doesn't display properly at all. It's a bummer since Konqueror is one of
the hallmarks of TDE for me, although I don't know much about the web
browser (KHTML) aspect I believe its integrated into some Trinity
applications which is a really nice feature. I first really thought of
this when I used KlamAV's virus browser function (which I assume is
using KHTML integrated) but Trend Micro website (being that it's likely
changed a lot) doesn't display properly.
For the time being I'm using SeaMonkey since my usual browser, Pale
Moon, does not take too kindly to *BSD.. And since it's a suite with a
mail client as well I'm not using Kmail. I might switch to Firefox, but
if there is any way to use Konqueror I would love to. There's so many
options that far outweigh most dedicated web browsers such as its
adblock filters and the ability to disable JavaScript which gets rid of
any need for an add-on like uBlock Origin. I completely understand that
working on it to display modern web pages is probably too difficult
since Trinity's KHTML/Konqueror is older, this is just me dreaming here.
Ideally I'd like to be able to make full use of a TDE web browser and
the applications that work with it =)
- Hunter aka hunter0one
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Although it may seem suspicious, Konqueror is my primary browser. Only if
the page does not appear usable, I open it in Pale Moon. Chromium or
Chrome I only use for (crazy) MS Teams or (significantly better) Jitsi
meet - for example, on https://meet.vpsfree.cz.
I am aware that some CSS are not displayed correctly, but fortunately it
often does not reduce the readability of the pages. And the fact that
HTML5 things do not work properly, as well as the "modern" JavaScript
pages often keeps me away from "amazing" ads and other "necessary"
things,
which I don't mind at all. For me it is great that Konqueror opens /
closes greatly faster than any "modern" browser. And for many things I
need, Konqueror works well.
I definitely disagree with the statement that Konqueror is the worst web
browser ever created. The fact that Webkit originated as fork of KHTML
confirms that the basis was definitely good.
Sure, I would like Konqueror could be used also for modern web pages - for
example, to use WebKit engine instead of old KHTML/TDEHTML. Here we must
consider not only due to CSS, but mainly due to JavaScript. For example,
to be able to use TGW in Konqueror. But definitely I'm not a supporter of
removing web browsing capability from Konqueror. I use it every day, so
there doesn't make sense to want to shoot into my own feet. What makes for
me sense is to consider whether to go the way to integrate webkit engine
or porting functionality from webkit back to tdehtml. The problem is that
we do not have enough time and programmers who could do it.
Cheers
--
Slávek