15 Jul
2018
15 Jul
'18
7:22 a.m.
On Saturday 14 July 2018 23:41:36 deloptes wrote:
William Morder wrote:
Right, that's where I am headed. I noticed that my Devuan system ran pretty
well before I uninstalled other systemd processes. If not for these bugs (or
whatever they are) that seem to be something new in Devuan, I was liking
Devuan better than Debian.
If it didn't involve breaking some rules and the risk of wrecking one's
system, they wouldn't call it hacking. :-] Well, anyway, I have been hacking
away on my own computers since about 1980-81; and when I briefly studied
computer programming in the 1970s, it meant IBM punch cards. So I am not
afraid of making a mess of things. It can always be restored.
Thanks for this information, as it will help me find my way. I have a lot of
Devuan packages that I've saved, but it's good to know what works for other
people.
Bill
I am contemplating some kind of FrankenDebian
hack (or rather,
FrankenDevuan). I seem to recall that somebody mentioned that sysvinit
could be installed, and systemd purged, on a Debian system. The do
upgrades from the Debian repositories, but keep sysvinit and avoid the
systemd problems.
I discussed this in the debian user list. I was pointed out that installing
sysv* (don't know exactly which one) replaces systemd as init process.
I have installed
ii sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59.9
all System-V-like runlevel change mechanism
ii sysvinit-core 2.88dsf-59.9
amd64 System-V-like init utilities
ii sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-59.9
amd64 System-V-like utilities
systemd is still there, but it is not the init process and all works just
fine.
ii dbus-user-session 1.10.26-0+deb9u1
all simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user
integration)
ii libpam-systemd:amd64 232-25+deb9u3
amd64 system and service manager - PAM module
ii libsystemd0:amd64 232-25+deb9u3
amd64 systemd utility library
ii libsystemd0:i386 232-25+deb9u3
i386 systemd utility library
ii systemd 232-25+deb9u3
amd64 system and service manager
ii systemd-shim 10-3
amd64 shim for systemd
I am pretty happy with this setup.
regards