On Saturday 14 July 2018 23:41:36 deloptes wrote:
William Morder wrote:
I am contemplating some kind of FrankenDebian hack (or rather, FrankenDevuan). I seem to recall that somebody mentioned that sysvinit could be installed, and systemd purged, on a Debian system. The do upgrades from the Debian repositories, but keep sysvinit and avoid the systemd problems.
I discussed this in the debian user list. I was pointed out that installing sysv* (don't know exactly which one) replaces systemd as init process. I have installed ii sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59.9 all System-V-like runlevel change mechanism ii sysvinit-core 2.88dsf-59.9 amd64 System-V-like init utilities ii sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-59.9 amd64 System-V-like utilities
systemd is still there, but it is not the init process and all works just fine.
ii dbus-user-session 1.10.26-0+deb9u1 all simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user integration) ii libpam-systemd:amd64 232-25+deb9u3 amd64 system and service manager - PAM module ii libsystemd0:amd64 232-25+deb9u3 amd64 systemd utility library ii libsystemd0:i386 232-25+deb9u3 i386 systemd utility library ii systemd 232-25+deb9u3 amd64 system and service manager ii systemd-shim 10-3 amd64 shim for systemd
I am pretty happy with this setup.
regards
Right, that's where I am headed. I noticed that my Devuan system ran pretty well before I uninstalled other systemd processes. If not for these bugs (or whatever they are) that seem to be something new in Devuan, I was liking Devuan better than Debian.
If it didn't involve breaking some rules and the risk of wrecking one's system, they wouldn't call it hacking. :-] Well, anyway, I have been hacking away on my own computers since about 1980-81; and when I briefly studied computer programming in the 1970s, it meant IBM punch cards. So I am not afraid of making a mess of things. It can always be restored.
Thanks for this information, as it will help me find my way. I have a lot of Devuan packages that I've saved, but it's good to know what works for other people.
Bill