Hi!
Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb William Morder:
On Sunday 29 April 2018 11:32:08 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb Greg Madden:
protonmail offers (extra cost) a vpn service, afaik, vpn secures the mail from man in the middle, ie. isp's, compromised routers, etc. Encryption leaks some info enroute making vpn neccessary, not an extra.
$.02 Greg Madden
Well, I'm not a friend of vpn services. On one hand, i's harder to mantain than ssh. On the other, it does not provide with any improvement over e.g. sshuttle. And on one foot, I do not trust vpn salestalk since it has bitten me more than once... (see, I have still one foot left for standing :-) )
Nik
I agree. VPN = snake oil. Maybe not always, but VPNs promise more than they can deliver. I trust more in the anonymity of Tor (and take my chances with rogue actors and man-in-the-middle attacks), than to suppose that privacy and security can be bought.
There also won't ever be some magic bullet or perfect solution; it will always be like cat-and-mouse. Encryption keeps getting better, and cracking tools also get better, and that's how it will be. I just hope for relative success, to leave few data traces "out there", but I don't imagine that I am invisible.
Bill
You know what's the funniest part of all of this? Realy bad guys don't use encryption at all - and get away with it.
Nik