On Sunday 20 December 2015 15:12:17 Gene Heskett wrote:
IMO a separate package should not be needed. To that end, if the package asks for a pw, and gets the 1st users pw as a response, it should be happy and run. There is little or no difference between root and 1st user as 1st user is generally the one who originally setup the system and should know it well.
That is what Ubuntu users think, Gene. But Ubuntu is available, as is TDE for Ubuntu..
I was not aware, until this discussion, that debian did setup a root passwd, I had assumed that the buntu's inherited the sudo requirement from debian.
No, it created it and the infection is spreading into Debian, on the whole from Ubuntu users who switch. (Like you.)
I've one other machine that is running a 14.04 lubuntu LTS, my lappy, and you have my curiosity piqued now, so its booting. That takes a while as it seems to be convinced it must do an fsck everytime it boots, on a 100 gig drive. And that transition to sudo for everything is complete, there is not a passwd hash in the /etc/shadow file for root.
It probably needs an update session so we'll see what synaptic wants to install. 4 new packages, 52 to be upgraded. It was last done a couple weeks ago, so the packagers have been busy. Updates I see include bind9 and grub plus a grocery list of other stuff. A new kernel too IIRC.
So I am learning a bit, and now don't feel so crippled at having to use a root pw for some stuff. It was actually expected if it was pure debian.
Quite!! And some of us really want it. ;-)
Lisi