1 Nov
2021
1 Nov
'21
2:02 a.m.
On Sunday 31 October 2021 06:38:06 pm dep wrote:
Does ~/.xsession-errors cast any light on the problem?
It spits out the same thing that the typescript I pasted did with a bit more
information at the top. I attached it to keep this message from being too long
(and trimmed the file to whats TDE-related since it was huge).
On Sunday 31 October 2021 07:02:02 pm William Morder via tde-users wrote:
You said that if you use sysvinit, every Debian
package wants to uninstall
it; that's because Debian uses systemd. If you want sysvinit, rather than
systemd, then you must use Devuan or another non-systemd distro (e.g. MX
Linux, etc.). Devuan is nearly identical to Debian, and most packages are
interchangeable between them.
I am not saying that you ought to prefer one over the other. Others will
have their own preferences, too.
Yes, I have equal experience with Devuan. I've used both for quite some time
before FreeBSD. I chose to go with Debian since 1. the Devuan mirrors are
quite slow for me and 2. Debian is making moves towards init freedom:
https://wiki.debian.org/Init
Unfortunately, I followed these steps and sysvinit works but everything wants
to remove it. It doesn't look like there's any way to update-alternatives to
your init. I am not a fan of systemd myself but I started using Pipewire to
make Linux audio more bearable and it's a bit of a hassle without systemd for
now. Since I'm on Sid, if something changes I'll be the first to know. Maybe
sooner or later we'll see if Debian packages become more init-independent.
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~ Hunter