20 Dec
2015
20 Dec
'15
4:13 p.m.
On Sunday 20 December 2015 10:49:56 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 20 December 2015 15:12:17 Gene Heskett
wrote:
TBT Lisi, it has been handy here, even if I too failed to grok the reason
for it years ago when the *buntu's first started it. Like most, if I set
a root pw, it is going to be a considerably longer, mixed case and
alphanumeric string I can remember. Let them spend a few hundred years
using a dictionary attack at 10x/second being the operative theory...
That MIGHT get them thru the router, but then they have to get to the
machines.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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IMO a separate package should not be needed. To
that end, if the
package asks for a pw, and gets the 1st users pw as a response, it
should be happy and run. There is little or no difference between
root and 1st user as 1st user is generally the one who originally
setup the system and should know it well.
That is what Ubuntu users think, Gene. But Ubuntu is available, as is
TDE for Ubuntu..
I was not aware, until this discussion, that
debian did setup a root
passwd, I had assumed that the buntu's inherited the sudo
requirement from debian.
No, it created it and the infection is spreading into Debian, on the
whole from Ubuntu users who switch. (Like you.)
I've one other machine that is running a
14.04 lubuntu
LTS, my lappy, and you have my curiosity piqued now, so its booting.
That takes a while as it seems to be convinced it must do an fsck
everytime it boots, on a 100 gig drive. And that transition to sudo
for everything is complete, there is not a passwd hash in the
/etc/shadow file for root.
It probably needs an update session so we'll see what synaptic wants
to install. 4 new packages, 52 to be upgraded. It was last done a
couple weeks ago, so the packagers have been busy. Updates I see
include bind9 and grub plus a grocery list of other stuff. A new
kernel too IIRC.
So I am learning a bit, and now don't feel so crippled at having to
use a root pw for some stuff. It was actually expected if it was
pure debian.
Quite!! And some of us really want it. ;-)
Lisi